When in Rome.

It's not acceptable to do many things in other countries that we do here
that doesn’t mean we are free to do it.

Suarez is an idiot, he dives more than Ronaldo, he bit someone a couple of
years ago, he gave the finger to those notorious bad boys at Fulham, 



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Sent: 21 December 2011 15:31
To: list leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - Suarez / Terry

I gotta say, Suarez's reasoning - according to The Guardian at least - is
entirely plausible and the FA's punishment seems disproportionate to say the
least. 

The N word in English has an equivalent in Spanish but Suarez apparently
didn't use it, instead he used the word "negro" [black] which whilst
literally true is not polite but light years away from the Spanish N word.
I've not travelled beyond a visit to Argentina in South America, but here in
Spain that's how they see the usage of the word negro.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: miércoles, 21 de diciembre de 2011 16:25
To: 'list leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - Suarez / Terry

you are right of course Dave it is a can of worms basically because it comes
down to 1 mans word against another.  But my understanding is that The FA
have waited to investigate Terry until the court case concludes cos the cops
got in first as a complaint was made by a member of the public who allegedly
saw and lip-read the situation.  in Suarez's case only him and evra we aware
of the situation and no one has reported it to the police.

I'd have to say that I don't think calling someone a cunt is anywhere as bad
as prefacing it with someone's colour, especially in the week that the
Steven Lawrence trial is occurring - its much more loaded and the context is
racist.  by the way if Ferdinand had called Terry a white cunt he also would
have been liable to a charge.

Suarez's excuse that its common place to call people in Uruguay names that
are considered offensive here is irrelevant, the speed limit is probably
different there, doesn't mean he can ignore ours.

re the England issue,  I assume Terry will be not be allowed to play for
England as he is now charged.

As for Marks comment about plod having better crimes to fight.  yes of
course they do and they will be doing that as well.  see my comment about
Steven Lawrence

ttfn

Richard



>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]]
>On Behalf Of DAVID NATTAN
>Sent: 21 December 2011 15:08
>To: list leedslist
>Subject: [LU] Non LU - suarez / Terry
>
>Is there anyone else out there as bewildered as me in regard to the 
>above cases ?
>Why are the police / CPS charging Terry for one instance of alleged 
>abuse but not Suarez when he was supposed to have done it 15 times ?Why 
>is Terry saying something racist on a pitch deemed worthy of 
>prosecution but any bad tackle or even punch up on the pitch is deemed 
>only to be a football matter ?Why does the FA appear to say it is OK 
>for a player to call another player a c*nt - one of the worst insults 
>in this country but then becomes a huge police matter if that is 
>preceded by the word 'black' - a word which in other situations is now 
>the accepted term for one section of society ?(albeit meant as an 
>insult in the FA view of this case)Why has Suarez got an 8 match ban 
>for calling someone a bad name but players only get 3 matches for 
>punching or kicking another player - sticks and stones and all that?Why 
>are Liverpool moaning that Suarez has been convicted on the word of 
>Evra alone - someone who in the past , as they say, the FA have found 
>to have  lied and exaggerated a similar instance of racial abuse, when 
>Suarez himself ADMITS saying the words, albeit claiming that he did not 
>know /intend them to be derogartory  Why is Terry allowed to play for 
>England -presumed  innocent until proven guilty - for an offence 
>committed on the pitch and against all the various campaigns backed by 
>the FA but Bowyer and Woodgate were not allowed to play after an 
>alleged incident that in no way related to footballFinally why is a fan 
>who is dealt with for racist abuse inside the ground banned from all 
>grounds for 3 years - that seems to be the general punishment - but a 
>player who does the same only get an 8 match ban for playing for his 
>club but is , I assume free to enter any ground he may wish during this 
>ban Talk about a can of worms !!
>Dave
>
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