What you saying ? I hope you're not saying its poncey to drink wine :) 

Liking French wine is one thing , loving the Germans is another. 

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On 9 Dec 2012, at 14:11, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can we get back to how shit Becchio is please? And Rich had the front to 
> question the far shorter Germany thread and then unleashed this one?!
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Gardiner <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>
> To: Robert Heath <rhe...@asd.edu.qa> 
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
> 
> If you're drinking a young white (like a Sauv Blanc or a Pinot Grigio) or a 
> young red (a CA zin or SA shiraz, for example) no harm in a screwtop bottle.  
> None.  Just to you're perceptions.
> 
> As for the rest of it….not much to disagree with.
> 
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> From: Robert Heath <rhe...@asd.edu.qa<mailto:rhe...@asd.edu.qa>>
> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:13:25 +0300
> To: Michael Gardiner 
> <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com<mailto:mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>>
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>" 
> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
> 
> Screwtop wine bottles are right up there in the top 10 items that prove that 
> civilisation is in terminal decline.
> 
> Along with 20/20 cricket, reality tv, the "Champions" League, the dumbing 
> down of the questions on Mastermind, twitter, so-called "rap", a nurse 
> feeling that she must commit suicide b/c she has embarrassed the royal 
> family, cgi and Nick Clegg.
> 
> 
> On 9 December 2012 03:47, Michael Gardiner 
> <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com<mailto:mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>> wrote:
> 
> It depends on the wine you're drinking.  If its young and to be drunk
> young there's nothing wrong with a screw top.  If its NOT young you
> probably don't want to be drinking it from a screw top bottle.
> 
> Michael Gardiner
> San Diego Whites
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/8/12 3:48 PM, 
> "leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org>"
> <leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:10:13 +0000
>> From: Wayne <ws.callag...@live.co.uk<mailto:ws.callag...@live.co.uk>>
>> To: Richard Walker 
>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>,  Ian Murray
>>        <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
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>> 
>> Screw top or cork.... Which is the better?
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok point accepted, I have had some decent Argie malbecs but have to pay
>>> a price to get anywhere near a decent French red.
>>> 
>>> Anyone want any wine advice drop me a mail off list , I know more about
>>> wine than anyone in Leeds :)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Ian Murray 
>>> <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Love it. I wouldn't describe some of the awesome Argie Malbecs as
>>> 'shit' though.
>>>> The rule is thus: wine in a pub - unacceptable. Wine at home -
>>> acceptable provided it's red.
>>>> Discuss.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:38, "Richard Walker" 
>>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Chateau Tour Chantecaille 2010 -13 Euros.
>>>>> Ok, probably not the best of the best but still better than an Argie
>>> shite you can buy.
>>>>> My old man , Croggy lad born and bred went and bought a house near
>>> St Emillion in his old age. Brings me loads of grand Cru ( and
>>> sometimes some grand Cru classe) back. Love it. I go out there every
>>> year and stock up.
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:33, Damian Walsh 
>>>>> <pussaydam...@gmail.com<mailto:pussaydam...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Wholeheartedly agree - whats the St Emilion GC?
>>>>>> Belotte du foot ce soir vin chaud a 50cm the glass and
>>> sandwiches at 2E
>>>>>> - que demande le peuple
>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>> Le 8 d?c. 2012 22:15, "Richard Walker" 
>>>>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>>>>> Surely my reply was better Eric ?
>>>>>>> French over Argie shite any day of the week.
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:02, Eric B 
>>>>>>> <barl...@gmail.com<mailto:barl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cheers Ross. This is posting of the year as far as Im concerned.
>>> and we
>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>> in Dec. not in January.
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Ross Thornton
>>> <ross_thor...@hotmail.com<mailto:ross_thor...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> People use other peoples opinion on becchio to try and
>>> rationalise with
>>>>>>>>> you regarding your extremist views on becchio by referencing
>>> widley
>>>>>>>>> respected opinions as evidence, but it is ultimatley pointless
>>> as with
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> extremist you only view things in black and white and are
>>> totally
>>>>>>> unable to
>>>>>>>>> concede or accept any view outside your own. Talking to you
>>> about
>>>>>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>> is like to trying to convince Al-Qaeda that Americans arent all
>>> bad. The
>>>>>>>>> instant anyone dare stand up in defence of becchio they are
>>> suddenly
>>>>>>>>> branded Becchio fans who think he is a legend as opposed to
>>> people with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> rational view who can see despite his obvious limitations (poor
>>> touch
>>>>>>> etc)
>>>>>>>>> he has a good scoring record and has been a good servant to the
>>> club and
>>>>>>>>> that there have been far worse players at the club (albeit with
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> limitations).  Billy Paynter, Mike Grella, Liam Dickinson, Gary
>>>>>>> McSheffrey,
>>>>>>>>> Lee Trundle, Sam Vokes and Mikkel Forsell just to name a few in
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> strinking department who i doubt scored mor
>>>>>>>>> e than 10 goals between them.
>>>>>>>>> Todays match report goes to prove your almost zealot like
>>> obsession with
>>>>>>>>> slating Becchio was he poor ... yes undoubtedly, but what about
>>> peltier
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> was woeful at LB?  or several other players who were just as
>>> poor or for
>>>>>>>>> instance varney who was totally anonymous and awful when he came
>>> on, and
>>>>>>>>> apart from a half decent display against an awful saints side,
>>> has been
>>>>>>>>> abject. Are you really saying you would start varney ahead of
>>>>>>> Becchio??!!
>>>>>>>>> Will I be singing luciano Becchio in the kop next home game,
>>> without
>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>> ... is it because I think he is the best player ever and I
>>> blindly adore
>>>>>>>>> him... no hes just one of our longest serving players who has
>>>>>>> contributed
>>>>>>>>> a decent amount of goals and effort to my club. Would I like
>>> four better
>>>>>>>>> strikers at leeds yes undoubtedly, is that going to happen
>>> anytime
>>>>>>> soon, no
>>>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway no doubt Ill be branded a Becchio fan and slated for
>>> coming out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the woodwork....Unfortunatley exremists are never willing to
>>> accept any
>>>>>>>>> middle ground may exist.
>>>>>>>>> can't remember if it was linked on here or waccoe but the below
>>> link to
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> radio interview with Andy Hughes, kind of sums up for me that
>>> its not
>>>>>>>>> always about ability:
>>>>>>> 
>>> http://www.werenotfamousanymore.com/2011/01/andy-hughes-interview-co-york
>>> shire.html
>>>>>>>>> out of interest I take it you hated Andy Hughes?
>>>>>>>>> Luciano Becchio there is no myth - he's just a fairly limited
>>> player who
>>>>>>>>> works hard, has scored a decent amount of goals and is a good
>>> servant to
>>>>>>>>> LUFC.
>>>>>>>>> (I have this exact same long running argument with my Dad who I
>>> go to
>>>>>>>>> games with he shares your extremist approach)
>>>>>>>>> Cheers Ross
>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant in the air ? You seem to hang off other people's
>>> opinions
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>> rather than your own. You've seen him, can you honestly say he
>>> is
>>>>>>> brilliant
>>>>>>>>> in he air ? He's average at best.
>>>>>>>>>> What he did say was that apart from the last 2 weeks he thought
>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>> was having a poor season. A poor season ?, he's scored over 10
>>> goals, is
>>>>>>>>> our top scorer and has been on fire hasn't he ? What does that
>>> tell you
>>>>>>>>> about Becchio?
>>>>>>>>>> I love it when Becchio scores because it brings everyone out of
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> woodwork who actually rates him. My guess is we'll now witness a
>>> spell
>>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>>> or 6 games without a goal or chance on goal and even a few
>>> penalties
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>> cloud the issue now with Macca back in the team.
>>>>>>>>>> Did you watch the game today on the web ? Second half, ball
>>> gets played
>>>>>>>>> to Becchio , simple ball that anyone who has played football to
>>> any
>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>> level would have controlled, Becchio not only failed to control
>>> it but
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> spooned it out of play. I can honestly say I've never miss
>>> controlled a
>>>>>>>>> ball as bad as that.
>>>>>>>>>> On another occasion he got the ball, turned and played it to a
>>> Derby
>>>>>>>>> player - no pressure on him at all. It's just not good enough
>>> and just
>>>>>>> puts
>>>>>>>>> us right back under pressure.
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently mcCormack said you can forgive what Becchio does
>>> outside the
>>>>>>>>> box due to what he does in the box. Have you ever heard a
>>> professional
>>>>>>>>> footballer talk about a team mate like that ?
>>>>>>>>>> How can a striker on form ( or so we are told) not have 1
>>> bleeding shot
>>>>>>>>> or chance on goal - actually his assist I think was an attempt
>>> on goal.
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>> doubt his fans will cling on to that today.
>>>>>>>>>> And why do I not rate him ? Because in my opinion he is the
>>> worse
>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>> ever to play for Leeds - that's in terms of basic footballing
>>> ability
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>> Passing, control, pace, acceleration, awareness, shooting. I
>>> can't
>>>>>>> think of
>>>>>>>>> a player who a) would have miscontrolled that ball today as bad
>>> as that
>>>>>>> b)
>>>>>>>>> spends so much time on his arse feigning injury
>>>>>>>>>> Becchio - a total , fucking myth.
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