Rich,
Where do you stand on German wine ?

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On 9 Dec 2012, at 14:21, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> What you saying ? I hope you're not saying its poncey to drink wine :) 
> 
> Liking French wine is one thing , loving the Germans is another. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 9 Dec 2012, at 14:11, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can we get back to how shit Becchio is please? And Rich had the front to 
>> question the far shorter Germany thread and then unleashed this one?!
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Michael Gardiner <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>
>> To: Robert Heath <rhe...@asd.edu.qa> 
>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
>> 
>> If you're drinking a young white (like a Sauv Blanc or a Pinot Grigio) or a 
>> young red (a CA zin or SA shiraz, for example) no harm in a screwtop bottle. 
>>  None.  Just to you're perceptions.
>> 
>> As for the rest of it….not much to disagree with.
>> 
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>> From: Robert Heath <rhe...@asd.edu.qa<mailto:rhe...@asd.edu.qa>>
>> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:13:25 +0300
>> To: Michael Gardiner 
>> <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com<mailto:mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>>
>> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>" 
>> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wine (Was: Re: Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15)
>> 
>> Screwtop wine bottles are right up there in the top 10 items that prove that 
>> civilisation is in terminal decline.
>> 
>> Along with 20/20 cricket, reality tv, the "Champions" League, the dumbing 
>> down of the questions on Mastermind, twitter, so-called "rap", a nurse 
>> feeling that she must commit suicide b/c she has embarrassed the royal 
>> family, cgi and Nick Clegg.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9 December 2012 03:47, Michael Gardiner 
>> <mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com<mailto:mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on the wine you're drinking.  If its young and to be drunk
>> young there's nothing wrong with a screw top.  If its NOT young you
>> probably don't want to be drinking it from a screw top bottle.
>> 
>> Michael Gardiner
>> San Diego Whites
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/8/12 3:48 PM, 
>> "leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org>"
>> <leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:10:13 +0000
>>> From: Wayne <ws.callag...@live.co.uk<mailto:ws.callag...@live.co.uk>>
>>> To: Richard Walker 
>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>,  Ian Murray
>>>       <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
>>> Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
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>>> <blu0-smtp45306124f019d339489ef74b7...@phx.gbl<mailto:blu0-smtp45306124f019d339489ef74b7...@phx.gbl>>
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>>> 
>>> Screw top or cork.... Which is the better?
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok point accepted, I have had some decent Argie malbecs but have to pay
>>>> a price to get anywhere near a decent French red.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone want any wine advice drop me a mail off list , I know more about
>>>> wine than anyone in Leeds :)
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Ian Murray 
>>>> <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Love it. I wouldn't describe some of the awesome Argie Malbecs as
>>>> 'shit' though.
>>>>> The rule is thus: wine in a pub - unacceptable. Wine at home -
>>>> acceptable provided it's red.
>>>>> Discuss.
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:38, "Richard Walker" 
>>>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Chateau Tour Chantecaille 2010 -13 Euros.
>>>>>> Ok, probably not the best of the best but still better than an Argie
>>>> shite you can buy.
>>>>>> My old man , Croggy lad born and bred went and bought a house near
>>>> St Emillion in his old age. Brings me loads of grand Cru ( and
>>>> sometimes some grand Cru classe) back. Love it. I go out there every
>>>> year and stock up.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:33, Damian Walsh 
>>>>>> <pussaydam...@gmail.com<mailto:pussaydam...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Wholeheartedly agree - whats the St Emilion GC?
>>>>>>> Belotte du foot ce soir vin chaud a 50cm the glass and
>>>> sandwiches at 2E
>>>>>>> - que demande le peuple
>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>> Le 8 d?c. 2012 22:15, "Richard Walker" 
>>>>>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> a
>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>>>> Surely my reply was better Eric ?
>>>>>>>> French over Argie shite any day of the week.
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 21:02, Eric B 
>>>>>>>> <barl...@gmail.com<mailto:barl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> cheers Ross. This is posting of the year as far as Im concerned.
>>>> and we
>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>> in Dec. not in January.
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Ross Thornton
>>>> <ross_thor...@hotmail.com<mailto:ross_thor...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> People use other peoples opinion on becchio to try and
>>>> rationalise with
>>>>>>>>>> you regarding your extremist views on becchio by referencing
>>>> widley
>>>>>>>>>> respected opinions as evidence, but it is ultimatley pointless
>>>> as with
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> extremist you only view things in black and white and are
>>>> totally
>>>>>>>> unable to
>>>>>>>>>> concede or accept any view outside your own. Talking to you
>>>> about
>>>>>>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>>> is like to trying to convince Al-Qaeda that Americans arent all
>>>> bad. The
>>>>>>>>>> instant anyone dare stand up in defence of becchio they are
>>>> suddenly
>>>>>>>>>> branded Becchio fans who think he is a legend as opposed to
>>>> people with
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> rational view who can see despite his obvious limitations (poor
>>>> touch
>>>>>>>> etc)
>>>>>>>>>> he has a good scoring record and has been a good servant to the
>>>> club and
>>>>>>>>>> that there have been far worse players at the club (albeit with
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> limitations).  Billy Paynter, Mike Grella, Liam Dickinson, Gary
>>>>>>>> McSheffrey,
>>>>>>>>>> Lee Trundle, Sam Vokes and Mikkel Forsell just to name a few in
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> strinking department who i doubt scored mor
>>>>>>>>>> e than 10 goals between them.
>>>>>>>>>> Todays match report goes to prove your almost zealot like
>>>> obsession with
>>>>>>>>>> slating Becchio was he poor ... yes undoubtedly, but what about
>>>> peltier
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> was woeful at LB?  or several other players who were just as
>>>> poor or for
>>>>>>>>>> instance varney who was totally anonymous and awful when he came
>>>> on, and
>>>>>>>>>> apart from a half decent display against an awful saints side,
>>>> has been
>>>>>>>>>> abject. Are you really saying you would start varney ahead of
>>>>>>>> Becchio??!!
>>>>>>>>>> Will I be singing luciano Becchio in the kop next home game,
>>>> without
>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>> ... is it because I think he is the best player ever and I
>>>> blindly adore
>>>>>>>>>> him... no hes just one of our longest serving players who has
>>>>>>>> contributed
>>>>>>>>>> a decent amount of goals and effort to my club. Would I like
>>>> four better
>>>>>>>>>> strikers at leeds yes undoubtedly, is that going to happen
>>>> anytime
>>>>>>>> soon, no
>>>>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway no doubt Ill be branded a Becchio fan and slated for
>>>> coming out
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the woodwork....Unfortunatley exremists are never willing to
>>>> accept any
>>>>>>>>>> middle ground may exist.
>>>>>>>>>> can't remember if it was linked on here or waccoe but the below
>>>> link to
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> radio interview with Andy Hughes, kind of sums up for me that
>>>> its not
>>>>>>>>>> always about ability:
>>>> http://www.werenotfamousanymore.com/2011/01/andy-hughes-interview-co-york
>>>> shire.html
>>>>>>>>>> out of interest I take it you hated Andy Hughes?
>>>>>>>>>> Luciano Becchio there is no myth - he's just a fairly limited
>>>> player who
>>>>>>>>>> works hard, has scored a decent amount of goals and is a good
>>>> servant to
>>>>>>>>>> LUFC.
>>>>>>>>>> (I have this exact same long running argument with my Dad who I
>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>> games with he shares your extremist approach)
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers Ross
>>>>>>>>>>> Brilliant in the air ? You seem to hang off other people's
>>>> opinions
>>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>>> rather than your own. You've seen him, can you honestly say he
>>>> is
>>>>>>>> brilliant
>>>>>>>>>> in he air ? He's average at best.
>>>>>>>>>>> What he did say was that apart from the last 2 weeks he thought
>>>> Becchio
>>>>>>>>>> was having a poor season. A poor season ?, he's scored over 10
>>>> goals, is
>>>>>>>>>> our top scorer and has been on fire hasn't he ? What does that
>>>> tell you
>>>>>>>>>> about Becchio?
>>>>>>>>>>> I love it when Becchio scores because it brings everyone out of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> woodwork who actually rates him. My guess is we'll now witness a
>>>> spell
>>>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>>>> or 6 games without a goal or chance on goal and even a few
>>>> penalties
>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>>> cloud the issue now with Macca back in the team.
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you watch the game today on the web ? Second half, ball
>>>> gets played
>>>>>>>>>> to Becchio , simple ball that anyone who has played football to
>>>> any
>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>> level would have controlled, Becchio not only failed to control
>>>> it but
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> spooned it out of play. I can honestly say I've never miss
>>>> controlled a
>>>>>>>>>> ball as bad as that.
>>>>>>>>>>> On another occasion he got the ball, turned and played it to a
>>>> Derby
>>>>>>>>>> player - no pressure on him at all. It's just not good enough
>>>> and just
>>>>>>>> puts
>>>>>>>>>> us right back under pressure.
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently mcCormack said you can forgive what Becchio does
>>>> outside the
>>>>>>>>>> box due to what he does in the box. Have you ever heard a
>>>> professional
>>>>>>>>>> footballer talk about a team mate like that ?
>>>>>>>>>>> How can a striker on form ( or so we are told) not have 1
>>>> bleeding shot
>>>>>>>>>> or chance on goal - actually his assist I think was an attempt
>>>> on goal.
>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>> doubt his fans will cling on to that today.
>>>>>>>>>>> And why do I not rate him ? Because in my opinion he is the
>>>> worse
>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>> ever to play for Leeds - that's in terms of basic footballing
>>>> ability
>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>> Passing, control, pace, acceleration, awareness, shooting. I
>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> think of
>>>>>>>>>> a player who a) would have miscontrolled that ball today as bad
>>>> as that
>>>>>>>> b)
>>>>>>>>>> spends so much time on his arse feigning injury
>>>>>>>>>>> Becchio - a total , fucking myth.
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