David Stop talking sense. It's like a foreign language on here. Cheers Alec
> On 25 Jul 2014, at 7:23 pm, David W <davidwool...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Putting the schoolyard squabbling to one side, the problem is rather that > recruiting any quality coach is challenging at present for us. We have a > new, eccentric, owner with a long track record of sacking coaches on > average every few months (job life expectancy under one year) and who is > clearly very "hands-on" (read: interfering) and who has an open approach of > making all signings himself / with Salerno. > > You will therefore have very few "traditional" English managers who will > fit the role or want to take it. You are therefore immediately looking > either (a) to the continent or (b) for some up and coming UK based coach > who is willing to back themself to survive in the role. Anyone under (a) is > a gamble, you don't know how they will adapt to coaching in England, plus > do they want to uproot their life and move to another country when logic > tells them they will be sacked within a year? We evidently tried (b) > initially, but couldn't get the guy from Reading because we weren't willing > to pay compensation to get him - which will be a problem with anyone we > want to get who is rated at their club. So we're left sifting through the > coaching scraphead of out out of work coaches hoping to turn up a diamond, > or at least a polishable turd. Which is where Hockaday comes in. > > On top of all the above, this is manifestly a transitional, just stay up > season, where Cellino wants rid of deadwood and cost, and isn't going to > add to out cost base until he removes existing costs (Warnock, Kenny, > Morison, Hunt being the prime cost examples. Probably White too). One way > of another, 3 of those are out of contract at teh ned of teh next season, > and White should just about be sellable / giveawayable. Morison is what he > is. > > I don't blame Hockaday, the problem is the above set up that gives rise to > him. > > What would I prefer? That Cellino places a greter premium on the value on > having the right coach, is willing to pay to get that person as an > investment, and tries to mitigate against his reputation by giving what > assurances he can that the right man will get 2 years to work with the > squad. > > In the meantime let's pray Hockaday does turn out to be a misunderstood > coaching genius and we can somehow finish in a respectable mid table > position this season, which surely has to be the limit of our ambitions now > for this season sadly, given where things stand. > > I think most on the list will agree with most of the above. Trying to > reduce everything to "camps" and bandwagons as quite a few posters seem to > want to is all simplistic internet silliness. No-one is really > "anti-Hockaday". Just some doubt more than others whether he can achieve > anything. We're all sitting a different points on the same scale. Bit > boring as a perspective and not as fun as sitting one's self in a > self-invented camp and lobbing invective at another imaginary > polar opposite. But there you go. > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thought some pedant or penis would pick up on the obvious typo - lo and >> behold I get both in one poster. Two for one!! >> >> As for 'anyone will do' - I don't believe I said that about McD's >> successor so Id really rather you didn't put words in my mouth. >> >> How do you know Italian league 4 is below conference standard? Watched >> much of it have you? >> >> As for Carbone>Hockaday: this is clearly the case. Carbone was as good at >> football as you are bad at posting to this list. At least the players would >> respect him, as I have said. So of 'realistic' candidates, yes, Carbone or >> Festa, both of whom have played at the highest level and both of whom speak >> Italian, would be preferable to the bloke wearing the baggy trousers, red >> nose and over sized shoes (I don't mean you Paul). >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 25 Jul 2014, at 15:23, "Paul Cundell" <p...@cundell.com> wrote: >>> >>> Is a loan nut job, someone who uses Wonga or the renting of a testicle? >>> >>> The real crux of this argument is who would you want instead? >>> You wanted BMc out, you got your wish. >>> You said anybody would be better, you got your wish there too. >>> So really you more than most should have to suck it up. >>> You regularly refuse to give an opinion, other than wanting rid of the >> current incumbent, of who you would accept. >>> Italian League 4 is below English conference standard, yet you suggest >> Carbone is better qualified than Hock to coach the team, now who's the >> climate change denier? >>> Supporting the unsupportable is what being a Leeds fan is all about, >> n'est pas? >>> >>>> On 25 Jul 2014 01:02, "Ian Murray" <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> So wanting a failed non league manager out of Leeds is like being a >> climate change denier? Good analogy. I'd switch that and say that the >> overwhelming evidence is that Hockaday is shit, and that there are a few >> loan nut jobs who think that supporting the unsupportable makes them better >> fans. The proper analogy is that it's them who are the climate change >> deniers. >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
