One thing that puzzled me at the start of the season was TCs decision to
let the team pick the captain. So they obviously picked someone they liked
and got on with and maybe respected too, but not feared. So when the chips
are down are they scared that coops is going to give them a bollocking ?
Do we actually have any captain material in the side at all these days ?
Pontus last year maybe, but he seems to have gone into hiding when things
are not going well.
On 5 November 2017 at 14:11, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> Agree with all that.
> I think back to when we had George Graham. He said that sometimes you’ll
> lose because you were outplayed by a better team but you should never lose
> because you were outworked or outfought.
> That’s what seems to be happening every week and what is annoying me the
> most. Like Sean said, half the time they’re not even challenging for
> headers.
> Lasogga is starting to piss me off - he lost the ball yesterday to a bloke
> 3 yards away and didn’t make any attempt to run towards him. He jogs around
> doing fuck all - I’d send him back to Hamburg. If Roofe looks better than
> you, you’ve got problems.
> I’m so annoyed with them - we make the best start for ages and then
> proceed to piss it up the wall.
> I’d have Allardyce or Strachan (maybe with Gary Mac and get Vinnie in as
> “motivational coach” - there’d be no more not working hard enough!)
>
> S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 5 Nov 2017, at 13:43, {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.
> gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > The thing I found so galling watching yesterday's game - and most of the
> recent games - was the absolute lack of commitment in most of the players.
> I lost count of the number of high balls into the middle of the park that
> none of our players even challenged for. They just stood back and watched
> Brentford head it to another Brentford player. The same applies to tackles
> - I can't remember a single crunching tackle by any of our players in the
> middle of the park. Then there's the whole issue of pressing. In the first
> part of the season, when we were winning, I seem to remember us pressing
> the opposition back four as soon as they received the ball. We're not doing
> that any more. Brentford had all the time in the world to play up towards
> the centre circle before they had to worry about getting past a Leeds
> player. When we did gain possession, our players weren't showing for the
> pass. The man on the ball had too few options. We need a sports
> psychologist to instill some real aggression and courage in our players.
> >
> >
> > To me, the only players to emerge with any credit from yesterday were
> Berardi and Saiz. Berardi's not the world's greatest full back, but he put
> in some decent crosses yesterday, and he at least brings the fire. Saiz
> obviously has the talent and competitive spirit to thrive in the
> Championship. Even so, a couple of times in the last few games he's
> maneuvered himself into a great shooting position and then opted not to
> pull the trigger.
> >
> >
> >
> > Like others, I've been looking at the squad and trying to figure out a
> first XI ad a formation that would give us the best chance of victory. It's
> hard, because, as others have noted, over the summer we stripped out the
> entire spine of the team - Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood - and replaced
> them with players who are not as good (Wiedwald, Pennington, Klich,
> Lasogga). As I have mentioned before, we lack a real leader in the middle
> of the park. Vieira might evolve into that player, but he's not there yet.
> We also lack physical size in midfield. I think it'd be worth trying
> Shaughnessy (he's 6'3") in midfield (where he played for Reading) alongside
> Vieira. I think we also need a formation change that gives us more options
> in midfield and attack. Some version of 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 might leave Lasogga
> less isolated up front.
> >
> >
> > Not all of this is TC's fault. The whole "director of football/head
> coach" set up is one I have huge reservations over. I can't imagine Don
> Revie (or Bill Shankly or Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson) allowing a
> "director of football" to decide which players were going to be available
> to them. Victor Orta has to take some responsibility for the hopelessness
> that so many of the new players have displayed. I hope I'm proven wrong,
> but players like Wiedwald, Klich, Cibicki and Grot are not going to get us
> promoted. (The same could be said of some of the players left over from
> last season - O'Kane springs to mind.)
> >
> >
> > These are difficult days. There's no point sacking TC unless we have
> someone clearly superior lined up. I do not think Grayson fits that
> description. (Remember we went through a similar loss of form after the Old
> Trafford FA Cup win.) And frankly, sacking the manager - sorry, "head
> coach" - who's taken you to 10th and replacing him with the manager who
> took a rival club to 24th doesn't make much sense. It's hard to know if
> there are troubles in the dressing room, and if there are, to what extent
> they are the fault of TC. If I were Radrizzani, I'd be trying to find out
> the answer to that question. I'd probably give TC the next few games, but
> I'd also be putting a list together of managers who might be available for
> the right price.
> >
> >
> > MOT
> >
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> broken.gn.apc.org>
> > To: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; '{broken-address}
> Nicholas Armit' <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 'Leeds List' <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>; 'Graham Farr' <graham.f...@yara.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 5, 2017 3:57 am
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary
> >
> > Good spot Pete. I watch Philips closely too and I told my old man who
> was watching with me to watch Philips. He really does nothing and his only
> contribution was a Jonathan Douglas outside of the foot pass to Saiz in the
> first half. He has a reputation of being a box to box player and a tough
> tackler and I have seen that in him in the odd game but week in week out
> this guy is doing nothing but yet we can't see it. 6 goals has masked the
> fact he isn't fit to play in a team seeking promotion. He's not the only
> one to blame though. From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
> To: '{broken-address} Nicholas Armit' <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.
> gn.apc.org>; 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; 'Graham Farr' <
> graham.f...@yara.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2017, 1:01 Subject: Re:
> [LU] Tonights commentary If the team had a David Batty-esqe midfield
> leader, the whole team wouldn't have been allowed to give up, and we'd be
> in a much better situation than we are now. I made a point of watching
> Phillips in the first half, and he spent almost all that time drifting
> towards the Brentford player with the ball, then when the ball was passed,
> drifted towards where the ball had been directed, yet he still didn't
> manage to get closer than ten yards to any Brentford player. Complete and
> utter waste of time, and should be sent out with the reserves for a
> month.. Maybe then he will start fighting to play and fight to keep his
> place. Suppose you could say that for the whole team really...Pissed
> off-----Original Message-----From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-bounces@gn.
> apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas ArmitSent: 05 November
> 2017 11:56To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Graham Farr <
> graham.f...@yara.com>Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary Well they did
> fight back again until Lonergan's second mistake. On Saturday, November
> 4, 2017, 5:27:18 PM EDT, Graham Farr <graham.f...@yara.com> wrote:
> Interesting that they said Tue night Gary Rowett told his players at half
> time in Derby game....equalise and you won’t see Leeds again....ie...no
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