The spine has gone in every sense. Green, Bartlet & Wood. Both replaced by much lesser talent. I still think TC & AR are our best hope -- but they are on a learning curve.
-----Original Message----- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard Walker Sent: 05 November 2017 17:47 To: seanscr...@aol.com; dubca...@iinet.net.au; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org; leedslist@gn.apc.org; graham.f...@yara.com Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary lot of sense in all that Sean. Completely agree with you about Director of Football relationship. We don't want that at Leeds, we want a manager who knows his players and knows the type of player he wants ans is not dictated by some guy who failed at Boro. Also, I do think there is a problem going on with the team at the moment in terms of commitment. It was criminal the way we started against Brentford and they had the freedom of the park. I think we started with Saiz, Lasogga , Philips and Allioski were playing as a front 4 and none were really helping Vierra and O'Kane. Ultimately though I think we've got several players who are lower championship / League one standard players. I can't believe we've got another bloody international break now - is anybody interested in England anymore ? From: "seanscr...@aol.com" <seanscr...@aol.com> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; dubca...@iinet.net.au; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org; leedslist@gn.apc.org; graham.f...@yara.com Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2017, 13:43 Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary The thing I found so galling watching yesterday's game - and most of the recent games - was the absolute lack of commitment in most of the players. I lost count of the number of high balls into the middle of the park that none of our players even challenged for. They just stood back and watched Brentford head it to another Brentford player. The same applies to tackles - I can't remember a single crunching tackle by any of our players in the middle of the park. Then there's the whole issue of pressing. In the first part of the season, when we were winning, I seem to remember us pressing the opposition back four as soon as they received the ball. We're not doing that any more. Brentford had all the time in the world to play up towards the centre circle before they had to worry about getting past a Leeds player. When we did gain possession, our players weren't showing for the pass. The man on the ball had too few options. We need a sports psychologist to instill some real aggression and courage in our players. To me, the only players to emerge with any credit from yesterday were Berardi and Saiz. Berardi's not the world's greatest full back, but he put in some decent crosses yesterday, and he at least brings the fire. Saiz obviously has the talent and competitive spirit to thrive in the Championship. Even so, a couple of times in the last few games he's maneuvered himself into a great shooting position and then opted not to pull the trigger. Like others, I've been looking at the squad and trying to figure out a first XI ad a formation that would give us the best chance of victory. It's hard, because, as others have noted, over the summer we stripped out the entire spine of the team - Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood - and replaced them with players who are not as good (Wiedwald, Pennington, Klich, Lasogga). As I have mentioned before, we lack a real leader in the middle of the park. Vieira might evolve into that player, but he's not there yet. We also lack physical size in midfield. I think it'd be worth trying Shaughnessy (he's 6'3") in midfield (where he played for Reading) alongside Vieira. I think we also need a formation change that gives us more options in midfield and attack. Some version of 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 might leave Lasogga less isolated up front. Not all of this is TC's fault. The whole "director of football/head coach" set up is one I have huge reservations over. I can't imagine Don Revie (or Bill Shankly or Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson) allowing a "director of football" to decide which players were going to be available to them. Victor Orta has to take some responsibility for the hopelessness that so many of the new players have displayed. I hope I'm proven wrong, but players like Wiedwald, Klich, Cibicki and Grot are not going to get us promoted. (The same could be said of some of the players left over from last season - O'Kane springs to mind.) These are difficult days. There's no point sacking TC unless we have someone clearly superior lined up. I do not think Grayson fits that description. (Remember we went through a similar loss of form after the Old Trafford FA Cup win.) And frankly, sacking the manager - sorry, "head coach" - who's taken you to 10th and replacing him with the manager who took a rival club to 24th doesn't make much sense. It's hard to know if there are troubles in the dressing room, and if there are, to what extent they are the fault of TC. If I were Radrizzani, I'd be trying to find out the answer to that question. I'd probably give TC the next few games, but I'd also be putting a list together of managers who might be available for the right price. MOT Sean -----Original Message----- From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> To: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; '{broken-address} Nicholas Armit' <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; 'Graham Farr' <graham.f...@yara.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 5, 2017 3:57 am Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary Good spot Pete. I watch Philips closely too and I told my old man who was watching with me to watch Philips. He really does nothing and his only contribution was a Jonathan Douglas outside of the foot pass to Saiz in the first half. He has a reputation of being a box to box player and a tough tackler and I have seen that in him in the odd game but week in week out this guy is doing nothing but yet we can't see it. 6 goals has masked the fact he isn't fit to play in a team seeking promotion. He's not the only one to blame though. From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> To: '{broken-address} Nicholas Armit' <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; 'Graham Farr' <graham.f...@yara.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2017, 1:01 Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary If the team had a David Batty-esqe midfield leader, the whole team wouldn't have been allowed to give up, and we'd be in a much better situation than we are now. I made a point of watching Phillips in the first half, and he spent almost all that time drifting towards the Brentford player with the ball, then when the ball was passed, drifted towards where the ball had been directed, yet he still didn't manage to get closer than ten yards to any Brentford player. Complete and utter waste of time, and should be sent out with the reserves for a month. Maybe then he will start fighting to play and fight to keep his place. Suppose you could say that for the whole team really...Pissed off-----Original Message-----From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-address} Nicholas ArmitSent: 05 November 2017 11:56To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Graham Farr <graham.f...@yara.com>Subject: Re: [LU] Tonights commentary Well they did fight back again until Lonergan's second mistake. On Saturday, November 4, 2017, 5:27:18 PM EDT, Graham Farr <graham.f...@yara.com> wrote: Interesting that they said Tue night Gary Rowett told his players at half time in Derby game....equalise and you won’t see Leeds again....ie...no fight in this team.Sent from my iPhone________________________________NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it, may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the e-mail and attached documents. 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