while not disagreeing with anything below much…it is funny how we see things
and how stats work…apparently Lasogga is the most effective player in the
league when you combine goals scored with goal assists…Phillips has always
promised more than he’s brought to any party…
N
> On 5 Nov 2017, at 14:11, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>
> Agree with all that.
> I think back to when we had George Graham. He said that sometimes you’ll lose
> because you were outplayed by a better team but you should never lose because
> you were outworked or outfought.
> That’s what seems to be happening every week and what is annoying me the
> most. Like Sean said, half the time they’re not even challenging for headers.
> Lasogga is starting to piss me off - he lost the ball yesterday to a bloke 3
> yards away and didn’t make any attempt to run towards him. He jogs around
> doing fuck all - I’d send him back to Hamburg. If Roofe looks better than
> you, you’ve got problems.
> I’m so annoyed with them - we make the best start for ages and then proceed
> to piss it up the wall.
> I’d have Allardyce or Strachan (maybe with Gary Mac and get Vinnie in as
> “motivational coach” - there’d be no more not working hard enough!)
>
> S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 5 Nov 2017, at 13:43, {broken-address}
>> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>
>> The thing I found so galling watching yesterday's game - and most of the
>> recent games - was the absolute lack of commitment in most of the players. I
>> lost count of the number of high balls into the middle of the park that none
>> of our players even challenged for. They just stood back and watched
>> Brentford head it to another Brentford player. The same applies to tackles -
>> I can't remember a single crunching tackle by any of our players in the
>> middle of the park. Then there's the whole issue of pressing. In the first
>> part of the season, when we were winning, I seem to remember us pressing the
>> opposition back four as soon as they received the ball. We're not doing that
>> any more. Brentford had all the time in the world to play up towards the
>> centre circle before they had to worry about getting past a Leeds player.
>> When we did gain possession, our players weren't showing for the pass. The
>> man on the ball had too few options. We need a sports psychologist to
>> instill some real aggression and courage in our players.
>>
>>
>> To me, the only players to emerge with any credit from yesterday were
>> Berardi and Saiz. Berardi's not the world's greatest full back, but he put
>> in some decent crosses yesterday, and he at least brings the fire. Saiz
>> obviously has the talent and competitive spirit to thrive in the
>> Championship. Even so, a couple of times in the last few games he's
>> maneuvered himself into a great shooting position and then opted not to pull
>> the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like others, I've been looking at the squad and trying to figure out a first
>> XI ad a formation that would give us the best chance of victory. It's hard,
>> because, as others have noted, over the summer we stripped out the entire
>> spine of the team - Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood - and replaced them
>> with players who are not as good (Wiedwald, Pennington, Klich, Lasogga). As
>> I have mentioned before, we lack a real leader in the middle of the park.
>> Vieira might evolve into that player, but he's not there yet. We also lack
>> physical size in midfield. I think it'd be worth trying Shaughnessy (he's
>> 6'3") in midfield (where he played for Reading) alongside Vieira. I think we
>> also need a formation change that gives us more options in midfield and
>> attack. Some version of 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 might leave Lasogga less isolated up
>> front.
>>
>>
>> Not all of this is TC's fault. The whole "director of football/head coach"
>> set up is one I have huge reservations over. I can't imagine Don Revie (or
>> Bill Shankly or Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson) allowing a "director of
>> football" to decide which players were going to be available to them. Victor
>> Orta has to take some responsibility for the hopelessness that so many of
>> the new players have displayed. I hope I'm proven wrong, but players like
>> Wiedwald, Klich, Cibicki and Grot are not going to get us promoted. (The
>> same could be said of some of the players left over from last season -
>> O'Kane springs to mind.)
>>
>>
>> These are difficult days. There's no point sacking TC unless we have someone
>> clearly superior lined up. I do not think Grayson fits that description.
>> (Remember we went through a similar loss of form after the Old Trafford FA
>> Cup win.) And frankly, sacking the manager - sorry, "head coach" - who's
>> taken you to 10th and replacing him with the manager who took a rival club
>> to 24th doesn't make much sense. It's hard to know if there are troubles in
>> the dressing room, and if there are, to what extent they are the fault of
>> TC. If I were Radrizzani, I'd be trying to find out the answer to that
>> question. I'd probably give TC the next few games, but I'd also be putting a
>> list together of managers who might be available for the right price.
>>
>>
>> MOT
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
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