Weird that people keep saying this about Marsch, To me, he is the plainest speaking manager we have had in many years. Cheers! Sean
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> To: Steve Gillen <sjgil...@gmail.com>; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 10:24 am Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal Thank God we didn't get the chance to miss another penalty š I worry when people celebrate a loss because it is smaller than expected. It points that count, not explaining 'what if,' and 'if only. ' This contorted 'convenient thinking'Ā is like congratulating yourself; you only got run over by a mini when you expected a steam roller. We are getting rubbish results; we cannot go on this way. I see no reason to believe it will change. Out of nine games, we played well and won only once. (I get stick for saying this. ) Nevertheless, out of the many managers I have seen, Marsch is the only one I haven't a clue what he is on about. -- Michael DrĀ Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. Oranit, ISRAEL SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 Online CBT ||Ā Online Consultations BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. -----Original Message----- From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Steve Gillen Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 1:29 PM To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal OK your point is taken that it was not a penaltyĀ as Bamford had fouled first, I accept that...... HOWEVER, the red card should have remained as whether the ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick out attack and would be classed as violent conduct and should still be a sending off. Am I right or what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each other to no consequence because the ball is in touch and not in play? > On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > wrote: > > ļ»æ I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into the > ballot so watched on TV. > I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were > excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was this > a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ? > First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push > by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with his > feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already committed the > first foul. > I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the > best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy > corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a striker > and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective. > Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you > don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for > all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent > and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a > result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way > traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it > 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem > and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his > disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given > and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't > happen his haters will say. > I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it > could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason > we overran them was because they were knackered. > My scores: > Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I > think that's a bit harsh Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better > last two games. He is never going to offer as much as Ayling going forward > though Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to > Saka earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well > which he has done in the last 2 games. > Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints. > Koch - 8. Extra solid > Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I > don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work. > Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he > like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. For > me though he's disappointed. > Harrison - 5. Out of position. > Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal Sinistera - 8. Lively > throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to get a bit fitter > Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd > half where he ran them ragged down the left wing. > Subs: > Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me Koch - busy > Jimmy - missed a great chance > > Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday. > >Ā > > > >Ā Ā On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> >wrote:Ā > > So ref doesnāt see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until > someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss. > Then in injury time thereās a tussle as Bamford goes through, thereās some > afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesnāt look like a > penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I > assume, because the tussle wasnāt a sending off. Thereās 5 minutes while they > go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned. > What is the point? > > Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and > the referees canāt communicate via their little walkie-talkiesā¦but you know > it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and > the linesman had their flagsā¦ donāt know how managed for the 130 years before > all this technology. > > All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if > not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka, > which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka āwonā ācos he got the > goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad moments, when Rodrigo > attempting to switch play to the other wing, badly misjudged his pass, > sending it 40 yards back towards our goal, out to the wing, where Saka > pounced and 5 seconds later it was in the net. > > Bringing Bamford on at half time changed it for us. The movement and > stretching of their defence gave our midfield targets to hit with passes - > suddenly Aaronson was everywhere, Sinisterra was in the game - he is quality > -, Somerville should have hit the target with 5 minutes left. > > But as is par for the course, the visitors time wasted and āmanaged the gameā > (what a fucking horrible phrase that is) and we couldnāt hit the net. I hate > Arteta and all his bleating and shenanigans on the touchline. > > Frustrated but hopeful. > > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!Ā > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
