IMHO there remains a LOT of soft bias thinking that just because he has an American accent, he will then know nothing about football. Let's not forget the disasters we had in the past, Steve Evans anyone??? ________________________________ From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of seanscribe--- via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: 18 October 2022 14:32 To: m...@myray.com <m...@myray.com>; sjgil...@gmail.com <sjgil...@gmail.com>; richleed...@yahoo.co.uk <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal
Weird that people keep saying this about Marsch, To me, he is the plainest speaking manager we have had in many years. Cheers! Sean -----Original Message----- From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> To: Steve Gillen <sjgil...@gmail.com>; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 10:24 am Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal Thank God we didn't get the chance to miss another penalty š I worry when people celebrate a loss because it is smaller than expected. It points that count, not explaining 'what if,' and 'if only. ' This contorted 'convenient thinking' is like congratulating yourself; you only got run over by a mini when you expected a steam roller. We are getting rubbish results; we cannot go on this way. I see no reason to believe it will change. Out of nine games, we played well and won only once. (I get stick for saying this. ) Nevertheless, out of the many managers I have seen, Marsch is the only one I haven't a clue what he is on about. -- Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. Oranit, ISRAEL SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 Online CBT || Online Consultations BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. -----Original Message----- From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Steve Gillen Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 1:29 PM To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal OK your point is taken that it was not a penalty as Bamford had fouled first, I accept that...... HOWEVER, the red card should have remained as whether the ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick out attack and would be classed as violent conduct and should still be a sending off. Am I right or what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each other to no consequence because the ball is in touch and not in play? > On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > wrote: > > ļ»æ I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into the > ballot so watched on TV. > I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were > excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was this > a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ? > First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push > by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with his > feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already committed the > first foul. > I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the > best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy > corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a striker > and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective. > Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you > don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for > all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent > and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a > result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way > traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it > 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem > and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his > disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given > and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't > happen his haters will say. > I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it > could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason > we overran them was because they were knackered. > My scores: > Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I > think that's a bit harsh Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better > last two games. He is never going to offer as much as Ayling going forward > though Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to > Saka earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well > which he has done in the last 2 games. > Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints. > Koch - 8. Extra solid > Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I > don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work. > Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he > like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. For > me though he's disappointed. > Harrison - 5. Out of position. > Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal Sinistera - 8. Lively > throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to get a bit fitter > Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd > half where he ran them ragged down the left wing. > Subs: > Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me Koch - busy > Jimmy - missed a great chance > > Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday. > > > > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> > wrote: > > So ref doesnāt see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until > someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss. > Then in injury time thereās a tussle as Bamford goes through, thereās some > afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesnāt look like a > penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I > assume, because the tussle wasnāt a sending off. Thereās 5 minutes while they > go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned. > What is the point? > > Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and > the referees canāt communicate via their little walkie-talkiesā¦but you know > it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and > the linesman had their flagsā¦ donāt know how managed for the 130 years before > all this technology. > > All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if > not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka, > which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka āwonā ācos he got the > goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad moments, when Rodrigo > attempting to switch play to the other wing, badly misjudged his pass, > sending it 40 yards back towards our goal, out to the wing, where Saka > pounced and 5 seconds later it was in the net. > > Bringing Bamford on at half time changed it for us. The movement and > stretching of their defence gave our midfield targets to hit with passes - > suddenly Aaronson was everywhere, Sinisterra was in the game - he is quality > -, Somerville should have hit the target with 5 minutes left. > > But as is par for the course, the visitors time wasted and āmanaged the gameā > (what a fucking horrible phrase that is) and we couldnāt hit the net. I hate > Arteta and all his bleating and shenanigans on the touchline. > > Frustrated but hopeful. > > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
