I'm not anti-American. I'm anti Marsch because he cannot coach what is
a decent squad to defend. Everyone seems to think that a new center
back is needed. Fair enough, but I would argue that the the two we have
been playing with do not get enough help from the midfield. Roca, IMHO,
is not much good at defending, and Adams is not disciplined enough. We
play with two midfielders in front of a back four. Roca to the left and
Adams to the right. When Adams goes forward to try to win the ball,
Roca holds his position. When the player in possession plays the ball
into the area Adams has just left, Roca is still hanging around in his
original position on the left, leaving a Adams-shaped hole for any
decent attacker to slip into. This is why Koch is always so busy in all
our games. Roca should be moving to the middle when Adams moves up to
give himself a better chance of cutting out those balls (something
Kalvin was very good at). This is down to coaching, and just one
example of how teams find it easy to get through us. I have watched
every Leeds game this season, and the amount of times we get caught by
the same move is ridiculous. Again, this is something a good coach will
see and come up with a plan to rectify it. There is no evidence to show
that this is been done.
BTW, there are plenty of Liepzig fans who will tell you that this was a
feature of Marsch's time there.
There may indeed be a conspiracy against us by refs and the PL, but that
is not why we lost yesterday. We lost because we could not defend as a
team. And Marsch's tactics.
But all of that is just my opinion. Feel to disregard any or all of it
as you please.
On 13 Nov 2022 12:52, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
Gotta say I am so sick of the anti-American "bring back Bielsa"
bullshit on this list. It's finally time to say something. Bielsa was
taking us down. He was an incredible manager for a mid-level
Championship team because he had the ability to (a) improve the team's
professionalism and attitude (b) improve their fitness to almost
superhuman levels (at some cost to the players' long-term health) and
(c) play with tactics that Championship managers weren't used to
facing. But that only worked to a lesser degree in the Premier League,
where (a) everyone is super-professional, (b) everyone is super-fit
and (c) the managers are the best in the world (and so are the
players). By last season the players were done and we were dropping
like a stone back towards the Championship, getting absolutely
hammered every week. Marsch rescued us. It wasn't pretty, but it worked.
The reason Spurs scored one more goal than us yesterday is that their
first goal was the result of two blatant fouls: one by the goalscorer
Harry Kane pushing Tyler Adams (in much the same way that Bamford did
against Arsenal, except that Bamford was penalized and Kane wasn't);
and the second on Meslier, who was pushed into the back of his net and
then sat upon, preventing him from being in position to actually save
Kane's shot. I would argue that this was classic "big six refereeing,"
in which the Premier League feels invested in ensuring that the six
clubs around which it bases its global marketing remain competitive
for the top spots in the league throughout the season. Kane was also
helped by a long tradition in the Premier League of granting the
England captain more leeway than other players (going back at least to
Alan Shearer kicking opponents in the head and getting away with it).
Oh, and Spurs' fourth goal came from a throw-in given to them when the
ball clearly came off the leg of a Spurs player.
All the anti-Americans said Marsch's football wouldn't score goals.
We've outscored our opponents 9-8 in the last three games. It wouldn't
win games, they said. We've won two of our last three and were in
position to win the third with fewer than ten minutes to go. It
wouldn't be exciting, they said. If you haven't found the last three
games exciting, maybe you should take up skydiving instead.
Yes, our defence is a problem. I would argue a major factor behind
that is that Bielsa's hand-picked left back, Junior Firpo, is crap.
Marsch realizes this and doesn't play him, which, because we are so
weak in that position, means we have to play arguably our best
centre-half as left back. Until the club spend some money on very good
defenders, we're probably going to continue to suffer results like
yesterday on a regular or semi-regular basis.
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Adams <g...@jitterbug.co.za>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2022 12:14 pm
Subject: [LU] Spuds
Well, that was great. We had a big chance of getting something today,
but stupid, naive defending gifted the spuds enough chances which they
finally took.
We were second best, but some good play by individuals gave us a
chance. Spurs were there for the taking, but no team can defend like
that against any PL team, let alone a so-called top six one. This team
does not know how to defend. The first two goals were the result of
sloppy play by us. I did not see the third and fourth.
It's time to let the clown go. His 'tactics' are a joke. There are
enough decent players in the squad for us to be much better than this.
Just look at how many times there are three Leeds players pressing one
opponent and still do not win the ball or stop the player from playing
the ball out. It's already been pointed out by many on this list that
we are easy to attack out wide,yet we persist with two midfielders - one
of whom is useless defensively and the other is permanently in headless
chicken mode.
Ah, fuck it. I'm too pissed off. I want this guy and his penisball
out. Hopefully we can find someone who at least has a clue of how to
manage in a top rated league.
Bring back Bielsa.
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