True, there are ways and means of doing stuff thoughand AFC W have tken on this fans champion role and basically as far as non league is concerned they represent nothing but themselves!
I'd love to see Guiseley do well too, I went to school not too far away. I live in Greenwich so millwall is almost walkable and Orient is a short bus ride! Charlton is even nearer but as we got relegated its no use to me! He's more into Doctor who than football at the moment so i'm hoping a couple of decent lively away trips might convince him football is preferable to spending all day watching that Martha woman! (actually its not though) >From: "Tim Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:55:44 +0100 (BST) > >It is, but it is slowly starting to cascade down the leagues this wealth >thing. Guiseley are now owned by three multi millionaires (Steve Parkin >being one of them BTW). I guess another angle on the AFC WImbledon thing >is that it's borne out of necessity. Surely the best 'end game' for any >true footy fan would be to see AFC Wimbledon beat MK Dons in the League >twice and they can onlt do that by getting to the same playing field as >soon as poss. Sad? in many ways but it's inevitable with todays world. >As for your lad, Gawd help us if he latches on to Millwall ;-) How far is >Orient? Their a nice likkle club aren't they? > > > agreed, its fine for the professional game but the amateur game for me > > has > > always been about a few decent local lads with the occasional fallen pro > > playing for beer money from the same set up from a near by village and > > town > > with a very occasional decent FA cup/VAse Trophy run. Which league they > > are > > in is less important and occasionlly you willget the odd team that gets >a > > bit of cash and progresses Hornchurch, Canvey, crawley Weymouth etc... > > then > > often fades away as the wideboy cockney backer pulls out but Wimbledon > > have > > sustainable funds far in excess of that. > > > > If thats being ost then its pretty sad. I am fond of non league >football, > > I knew up pretty much next to farsley Celtic's ground and as a kid used >to > > climb through the hole in the fence and watch the games and occasionally > > chat to the linesman. > > > > I'm looking forward to next season as it will be the first time they >have > > been in a national league so I will make a point of going to Ebbsfleet, > > Woking (managed by Frank Gray) Aldershot etc... and some of the more >local > > games to me. > > > > Another point before I go misty eyed! > > > > > > My son is going to be 10 - I was going to start taking him to more games > > this season to make sure he doesnt lose his leeds sympathies - Should I > > take > > him to Millwall? its the closest game to our house but of course >probably > > th most risky > > > > > >>From: "Tim Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [email protected] > >>Subject: Re: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting > >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:51:09 +0100 (BST) > >> > >>I believe it's called Capitalism Matt! Sadly we have no alternative >these > >>days since Labour sold their soul back in the mid 90's and became Tory > >>light, socialism is rapidly being confined to the history books and the > >>greed is good ethos of the 80's is firmly instilled within society! > >>I'm not going to complain though, if any of these so called investors > >> come > >>forth and do indeed have zillions of spondoolicks which they wish to > >>invest in our beleagured club, thus giving us a transfer kitty 872 times > >>more than anyone else in League 1, good on 'em I say! (Providing we >spend > >>it well and win the League by 32 points) > >> > >> > >> > The fact is that AFC W have steam rollered their way through the > >>normally > >> > tranquil world of non league sometimes paying 10 times more in wages > >>than > >> > other teams hence cherry picking the best from each team making it > >> > impossible for other clubs to compete. > >> > > >> > Now its fair enough in some ways because they belong at a higher >level > >> > based > >> > on support backing etc... but to simply wander into the combined > >>counties > >> > league and ryman etc.. and pick off the best players from each team >or > >> > import players who belong several rungs up based on money (I know >this > >>via > >> > an aquaintance from Banstead Athletic) is actually more pronounced >and > >> > uncompetetive than what Chelsea have done over the last few years. > >> > > >> > Now if I was an AFC W fan I wouldnt complain at all but I work round > >> the > >> > Surrey area and know some of the teams who have witnessed this and >(of > >> > course many of them have benefited fom an extra thousand on their > >> gates > >> > one > >> > a season which is the other side of it if they had the grounds to >cope > >>in > >> > the first place) > >> > > >> > I personally have nothing against AFC Wimbledon but its not really > >> > understood in football as a whole that their fairytale has had its > >>victims > >> > along the way. > >> > > >> > Plus as well as an extremely large fish in a small pond they seem to > >>have > >> > side stepped a large points deduction which others have been >massively > >> > punished for similar things. > >> > > >> >>From: "Paul Cundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>To: "'Matthew Anderson'" > >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]> > >> >>Subject: RE: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting > >> >>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:16:07 +0100 > >> >> > >> >>Matt A wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Also AFC Wimbledon are the Chelsea of Non league massively > >> >> > over paying > >> >> > buying success (or not as the case may be) they deserve to be > >> >> > treated with > >> >> > as much contempt as MK Dons! > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>How so? > >> >>You're arguments are usually very reasonable so I thought I should > >>remind > >> >>you that AFC Wimbledon are the remnants of the theft of their > >> supporters > >> >>original club. > >> >>They don't deserve to be treat with contempt, they have already been > >> >> treat > >> >>with the greatest contempt by their original clubs owners and the > >> >> Football > >> >>League. They are attempting to recreate something that the business > >>suits > >> >>believed could be bought and sold just like everything else. > >> >>Milton Keynes are treat with contempt because instead of starting at > >> the > >> >>bottom - like Farsley Celtic, FC United or AFC Wimbledon - they > >> >> railroaded > >> >>their way into the football league by stealing Wimbledon's franchise. > >> >>Milton Keynes have even stolen Wimbledons history, they claim they >won > >> >> the > >> >>FA Cup - pretty sure it's Wimbledons name on the cup though. > >> >> > >> >>Cheers > >> >>Paul > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Txt a lot? 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