Aireborough Grammar School???
Orient are in League 1 aren't they?? My mates a surrogate Orient fan
whilst he's down in London and says it's quite a good laugh.


> True,  there are ways and means of doing stuff thoughand AFC W have tken
> on
> this fans champion role and basically as far as non league is concerned
> they
> represent nothing but themselves!
>
> I'd love to see Guiseley do well too, I went to school not too far away.
>
> I live in Greenwich so millwall is almost walkable and Orient is a short
> bus
> ride!  Charlton is even nearer but as we got relegated its no use to me!
>
> He's more into Doctor who than football at the moment so i'm hoping a
> couple
> of decent lively away trips might convince him football is preferable to
> spending all day watching that Martha woman! (actually its not though)
>
>
>>From: "Tim Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting
>>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:55:44 +0100 (BST)
>>
>>It is, but it is slowly starting to cascade down the leagues this wealth
>>thing. Guiseley are now owned by three multi millionaires (Steve Parkin
>>being one of them BTW). I guess another angle on the AFC WImbledon thing
>>is that it's borne out of necessity. Surely the best 'end game' for any
>>true footy fan would be to see AFC Wimbledon beat MK Dons in the League
>>twice and they can onlt do that by getting to the same playing field as
>>soon as poss. Sad? in many ways but it's inevitable with todays world.
>>As for your lad, Gawd help us if he latches on to Millwall ;-) How far is
>>Orient? Their a nice likkle club aren't they?
>>
>> > agreed,  its fine for the professional game but the amateur game for
>> me
>> > has
>> > always been about a few decent local lads with the occasional fallen
>> pro
>> > playing for beer money from the same set up from a near by village and
>> > town
>> > with a very occasional decent FA cup/VAse Trophy run.  Which league
>> they
>> > are
>> > in is less important and occasionlly you willget the odd team that
>> gets
>>a
>> > bit of cash and progresses  Hornchurch, Canvey, crawley Weymouth
>> etc...
>> > then
>> > often fades away as the wideboy cockney backer pulls out but Wimbledon
>> > have
>> > sustainable funds far in excess of that.
>> >
>> > If thats being ost then its pretty sad.  I am fond of non league
>>football,
>> > I knew up pretty much next to farsley Celtic's ground and as a kid
>> used
>>to
>> > climb through the hole in the fence and watch the games and
>> occasionally
>> > chat to the linesman.
>> >
>> > I'm looking forward to next season as it will be the first time they
>>have
>> > been in a national league so I will make a point of going to
>> Ebbsfleet,
>> > Woking (managed by Frank Gray) Aldershot etc... and some of the more
>>local
>> > games to me.
>> >
>> > Another point before I go misty eyed!
>> >
>> >
>> > My son is going to be 10 - I was going to start taking him to more
>> games
>> > this season to make sure he doesnt lose his leeds sympathies - Should
>> I
>> > take
>> > him to Millwall?  its the closest game to our house but of course
>>probably
>> > th most risky
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Tim Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>To: [email protected]
>> >>Subject: Re: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting
>> >>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:51:09 +0100 (BST)
>> >>
>> >>I believe it's called Capitalism Matt! Sadly we have no alternative
>>these
>> >>days since Labour sold their soul back in the mid 90's and became Tory
>> >>light, socialism is rapidly being confined to the history books and
>> the
>> >>greed is good ethos of the 80's is firmly instilled within society!
>> >>I'm not going to complain though, if any of these so called investors
>> >> come
>> >>forth and do indeed have zillions of spondoolicks which they wish to
>> >>invest in our beleagured club, thus giving us a transfer kitty 872
>> times
>> >>more than anyone else in League 1, good on 'em I say! (Providing we
>>spend
>> >>it well and win the League by 32 points)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The fact is that AFC W have steam rollered their way through the
>> >>normally
>> >> > tranquil world of non league sometimes paying 10 times more in
>> wages
>> >>than
>> >> > other teams hence cherry picking the best from each team making it
>> >> > impossible for other clubs to compete.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now its fair enough in some ways because they belong at a higher
>>level
>> >> > based
>> >> > on support backing etc... but to simply wander into the combined
>> >>counties
>> >> > league and ryman etc.. and pick off the best players from each team
>>or
>> >> > import players who belong several rungs up based on money (I know
>>this
>> >>via
>> >> > an aquaintance from Banstead Athletic) is actually more pronounced
>>and
>> >> > uncompetetive than what Chelsea have done over the last few years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now if I was an AFC W fan I wouldnt complain at all but I work
>> round
>> >> the
>> >> > Surrey area and know some of the teams who have witnessed this and
>>(of
>> >> > course many of them have benefited fom an extra thousand on their
>> >> gates
>> >> > one
>> >> > a season which is the other side of it if they had the grounds to
>>cope
>> >>in
>> >> > the first place)
>> >> >
>> >> > I personally have nothing against AFC Wimbledon but its not really
>> >> > understood in football as a whole that their fairytale has had its
>> >>victims
>> >> > along the way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Plus as well as an extremely large fish in a small pond they seem
>> to
>> >>have
>> >> > side stepped a large points deduction which others have been
>>massively
>> >> > punished for similar things.
>> >> >
>> >> >>From: "Paul Cundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>To: "'Matthew Anderson'"
>> >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]>
>> >> >>Subject: RE: [LU] From Sq Ball re Voting
>> >> >>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:16:07 +0100
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Matt A wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Also AFC Wimbledon are the Chelsea of Non league massively
>> >> >> > over paying
>> >> >> > buying success (or not as the case may be) they deserve to be
>> >> >> > treated with
>> >> >> > as much contempt as MK Dons!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>How so?
>> >> >>You're arguments are usually very reasonable so I thought I should
>> >>remind
>> >> >>you that AFC Wimbledon are the remnants of the theft of their
>> >> supporters
>> >> >>original club.
>> >> >>They don't deserve to be treat with contempt, they have already
>> been
>> >> >> treat
>> >> >>with the greatest contempt by their original clubs owners and the
>> >> >> Football
>> >> >>League. They are attempting to recreate something that the business
>> >>suits
>> >> >>believed could be bought and sold just like everything else.
>> >> >>Milton Keynes are treat with contempt because instead of starting
>> at
>> >> the
>> >> >>bottom - like Farsley Celtic, FC United or AFC Wimbledon - they
>> >> >> railroaded
>> >> >>their way into the football league by stealing Wimbledon's
>> franchise.
>> >> >>Milton Keynes have even stolen Wimbledons history, they claim they
>>won
>> >> >> the
>> >> >>FA Cup - pretty sure it's Wimbledons name on the cup though.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Cheers
>> >> >>Paul
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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