> OK Paul, let's dissect, as you like doing, for a moment YOUR > comments. Not > the Bates bit, that's been done to death. Wise. > Why do you HATE (Pretty strong word) him? As a person? Just > because he's a > Laaarnderner? Well you know him no better than I do for a > start off.
This is true but your selective memory is forgetting that he beat up a taxi driver and broke a sleeping team-mates jaw - doesn't make him a person I want to know never mind have running my football team. > Nasty > little 'Cockerknee' shite on the pitch, make no mistake, but pretty > fcuking good with it, very much ala Batts. Not a bit like Batts imho > But as a manager? > Well, he did > well at Millwall early days and did indeed take an underacheiving > Championship side to the FA Cup final, with no money but > admittedly a very > lucky draw. As you say - a lucky draw. > Then he went to Swindon and did a fantastic job in a short > space of time, starting them off a season which they ended, again > admittedly for the majority of the season not under his > control, gaining > automatic promotion. I think the real achievement was by Paul Sturrock however if you feel that he did that much in the 3 months he was there then surely in 9 months he should work wonders - but no, you now have a different benchmark > Then he came to a club in a downward spiral (Good album from > NIN BTW!) and > no, he didn't miraculously turn it around. But I honestly > think, from what > I saw last season, he made us a better team. He made us fitter, more > cohesive and more attack minded, but our luck truly ran out > last season, > teams scraped unlikely vistories at exactly the wrong time > for us (Hull > pulled victories from out of several hats last year for instance). But > ultimately it wasn't good enough, in two thirds of a season. Correct IT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH - therefore he should be sacked - he tried, he had plenty of time to stop a squad which had reached the play off final from getting relegated but he failed. That then is 'Thank You and Goodbye' time. > So, shenanigans aside, we are where we are. Currently 15 points adrift > from everyone else without a game being played. Is that his fault? NO > (Unreservedly no BTW, he has NOTHING to do with us being -15 > points right > now and if you argue he is, I think you're misguided). Did > Wise 'take us > down' well for the fact he was in charge the moment we were actually > relegated, yes. He was in charge for two thirds of a season before we were relegated, it took him four months to realise that Healy was a striker ffs! > But that's looking at it through purely black > and white - > right or wrong eyes. Sorry Tim but that's how it works - you can play all the fancy dan football, be as fit as you like but if you don't win then there really was no point in making the effort. > Wise is a player from the modern game > and, as such, > understands the needs of the modern footballer. He's strong minded and > determined. He's a thug and a bully. > Something that is not always a plus and that he > needs to learn > to channel, but dreaming aside I think he IS capable of doing > a job for us > and moving us upwards rather than down. Tim - you are dreaming if you think Wise can take us anywhere but down. > I am perfectly prepared to give him the obligatory 3 months > and then make > a decision. He's had 3 months - He's had 6 months - He's heading for 12 months. > I said the exact same of Blackwell and personally think it > only fair of ANY manager. If, (Off the pitch rumblings aside) > he MANAGES > to turn out a team that is commited, plays half decent > football and gives > us a fighting chance of something positive this season, why > not get behind > him and SUPPORT him? Because he fcuked up last season and thus should fall on his sword - end of. > Why condemn him off hand without looking > at the whole > picture and judging him by what we watch on a Saturday > afternoon? It's a > blinkered, slightly misguided approach, don't you think? The whole picture is we got relegated last season - that is the managers fault, no one elses. Paul _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
