I'll bow to your greater experience of idiocy, in general... All those years, of staring at one in the mirror stands you in good stead. Ah but then recognising that which is right in front of you was never your strong point, was it?
Now did anyone at the TRUST say they were considering writing to UEFA or FIFA? And if they were did they ask for your opinion or suggestions on what they should write? I think not.. Seems to me that whenever the TRUST has announced a stance or a planned to take action, you have systematically criticized and/or belittled it. .. On other occasions, as I said before, people have been quick to insist that it be made clear that the TRUST do not speak for anyone but their members. While open to input I'm sure, they'd rather it came in the form of a polite request rather than being told what they should write or as in the case of your last tirade (sorry suggestion) what it must say. You are correct in saying that you are but a single voice, crying in the wilderness (poor fellow) but if you feel compelled to write to UEFA, with your opinion (Not that this case has anything much, if at all to do with UEFA) then do so and announce to the list what you've done so that if any others care to join your campaign, then there'll soon be multiple letters winging there way to UEFA HQ making them aware of the massive groundswell of support for that idea. (NOT!) Then and only then can you claim to be doing something constructive... Right now you are simply blowing your usual flow of hot air... Lobbying the FA, UEFA and FIFA is pretty much useless. They have no say in the rules under which a league governs it's members or disciplines them, just as the FL have no say in what the FA did to discipline WHU or the Italians did to discipline their own teams for their crimes. Travesties on both counts but still no one's business but their own... UEFA if it had had any Balls should have banned the Italian clubs and referees from all European competition till they had proven to put their house in order, but they didn't. Still I digress. Content that Bates has been punished? No 'cos I don't believe he has. Like everyone else, I believe we as a club, have been punished for his wrong-doing while he sits around smugly with everything he ever had and no debts and probably laughing his ass off every time he reads garbage from people like you who swallowed his stories hook, line and sinker... Idiocy does indeed come in many forms.... Hey but just like you lot told u once bates got control and the GS back.... now it's your turn to stop the whinging and just "Deal with it!" Oh and PS: Once and for all....No it hasn't... What's it like to read at a lower level than a, supposed idiot! -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [LU] Punishment/UEFA It's called a suggestion. A constructive comment. An idea. A discussion point. Why can't you see that? Or did you answer that point in your first sentence? What? If I'm not a Trust member I have no right to make a suggestion on this list to Rick? Jeez. And you wonder why pepople say your posts are idiotic.... My reasoning is simple - the Trust is a recognised fans' body, and Rick has a degree of profile in the media. And he comes across well, too. I've said that before. I could write a letter to UEFA myself, but it would simply be from one individual supporter. Coming from a recognised fans' group would give the message more credibility and gravitas, would it not? Do you not think it would be a good idea to lobby the FA, UEFA, FIFA and anyone else in order to get some or all of the 15 points back? There might only be a slim chance of success, but surely it's worth pursuing? Or are you content that Bates has somehow been "punished", and that the 15pt penalty is fair? Mark PS - in your other post you state: >>My point was simply that once again someone on your side of the fence was stating that it was the policy to "Challenge" and the only place that has been said is here by you folk or by Bates..<< It has been stated, quite clearly and in plain English, in the KPMG document. I'm sure you've still got the link to it. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
