Luisa, My apologies for a unpleasant e-mail it was a tad rude. I will try to answer your questions as follows. 1) When the peace treaty was signed following the War of Independence Northern Ireland was a big issue (subsequently leading to the Civil War) it was partly dealt with by the setting up of The boundary Commission the main aim of which was to reduce the size of the counties in the North to a level that was not economically viable and thereby force the remaining parts of the North into the South (this obviously never happened) The IRA post the civil War pretty much disappeared occasionally rearing its ugly head but unhappily it raised its head again in the sixties when the Civil Rights movement started up in the North. The authorities stamped down hard on this movement (NI was a State that if you were a Catholic you would have been treated like the Blacks in South Africa ) all hell breaks lose the British Army came in initially treated like heroes by the Catholics then bloody Sunday kicks of and the IRA really gets started-All of which could have been prevented. In the South the vast majority of the population had no interest in the North and if it could have been cut off and shipped away people would have been very happy. I don't know what referendum you are talking about their was one aprox 10 years ago but this was in respect of the setting up of the assembly in the North and I cannot recall anything in that regarding reunification. In the South the IRA were a proscribed organisation with non jury courts used to try any one suspected of membership Sein Fein or any republican organisation were banned from radio/television Please also note that the political aims of the IRA was to have an all Ireland Marxist state (they also considered themselves as the lawful army and therefore considered the Irish police force the legitimate arm and the whole of the Irish state as its enemy) I cannot answer for people in the North I have only been there 3 times in my life(all before the peace process) and always felt very uncomfortable their but in the South we did a lot to try to stamp out the IRA but with a very open border it is very easy to sneak in and out Regards, Edmond From: "Luisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Edmond Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [LU] NON LU - 2K Terrorists
>I am prepared to admit I am wrong but opinions were formed over many years. > Why did the IRA want NI back so much they were prepared to kill hundreds > of innocent people to achieve it when in a referendum they clearly voted > not to be part of the Republic? > Why were the IRA allowed to continue in Ireland ? > In my opinion no civilised country would allow a terrorist outfit to > survive without any measures taken against them. > I am not trying to start an argument here, I am trying to understand. > Dont just tell me I am wrong, explain please. > I am aware of History and the wrongs done 300 years ago but cannot for the > life of me understand how that justifies the actions of the IRA against > innocent people. > For your info I have/had grand parents both from the North and South. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edmond Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Luisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <>; > "Brian Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'LEEDS LIST'" <> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU - 2K Terrorists > > >> Luisa, >> I am Irish and live in Dublin. >> I just want to say that you are the most pathetic idiot I have come >> across. >> I you had any knowledge of Irish history you would know what you have >> written is utter drivel. >> There were Scum on both sides in the North. >> Grow up and get a life. >> Edmond >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Luisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brian Hamilton" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: "'LEEDS LIST'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU - 2K Terrorists >> >> >>>I dont know why anyone should have been offended Mark. >>> The truth is the truth and being offended does not change that. >>> The truth is the IRA were a vicious and cowardly bunch of terrorists >>> murderers, and most of them still walk the streets, probably well off >>> now >>> due to EU handouts. >>> The Protestants were basically protecting their democratic rights. They >>> did >>> not want to be part of the Republic. >>> >>> The future of Ireland was decided by referendum at the ballot box and it >>> should have been left at that. >>> All the dead died for fukkall and PC does not allow for this to be said. >>> The Irish are rich now so they dont give a fukk for NI. >>> I do not have a problem with the Irish by the way but the truth is the >>> truth. >>> The IRA were truly evil bad bastards and the rest of the Irish to a man >>> were >>> guilty as hell for hiding them. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Brian Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Cc: "'LEEDS LIST'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU - 2K Terrorists >>> >>> >>>> PS Apologies to anyone offended or upset by the cack-handed nature of >>>> my >>>> opining. I had friends in the British Army who served in NI at the >>>> time >>>> although thankfully all came through unscathed and as I said previously >>>> I >>>> have nothing but contempt for what the IRA got up to. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >>>> administrators >>>> accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of >>>> contributors. >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> 6 in a bloody row! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >>> administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions >>> of contributors. >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> 6 in a bloody row! >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist 6 in a bloody row!
