Completely agree, seats are a danger to us all. I once grazed my shin on the 
seat in front during a goal celebration.

BTW - Happy New Year to all

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From: "DAVID NATTAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:49 PM
To: "list leedslist" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LU] Oldham \ standing

> That seems to concern itself with safe standing areas though, ie  a return 
> to terraces, which I agree with in principle, but would not wish to be on 
> terraces myself, and seems to be shouted down by Scousers who seem to see 
> it as trampling on the Hillsboro dead ! I am talking about the present all 
> seater stadia being allowed to let fans stand up in certain sections. I 
> have read the Trafford Borough independent report which basically said 
> that although not designed for standing it was 99.99% safe for fans to 
> stand and that any injuries sustained would be very minor and only involve 
> single people (ie not lots of fans trampled \ crushed). It even said that 
> the practice of sitting down and then jumping up when action on the  pitch 
> was exciting was more unsafe.
>  I have been  known to point out to stewards that I have to sit down 
> during the game when everyone is basically stationery , at least from 
> waist down (ie maybe clapping \ singing) but it is OK \ safe to stand up 
> at half time when people are walking around and going past with hot drinks 
> etc.
>  My other complaint with ER is the way the stewards actually behave 
> towards fans and the 'bouncers' we now employ to threaten intimidate fans 
> for minor infringements, when the fans are 'customers' without whom the 
> business would not exist.
>  It appears that the club are quite happy to have their employees, who 
> are, in theory, there for our safety and convenience hated by many. They 
> refused to alllow the big shirt to be paraded over the Revie Stand because 
> they feared that fans may take the opportunity to assault a steward ! 
> Every other business tries to have their employees and customers on 
> friendly terms - even nightclubs send bouncers on customer relations 
> courses etc.
>  Any number of well mannered, decent , polite fans round me are heard 
> shouting abuse at certain stewards and the whole situation . Whats that 
> chant again "Get a proper job !"
>
>  I am sure everything would be much better for all if fans could stand in 
> certain sections without being hassled - as I said before I have been to 
> any number of concerts in seated arenas where standing up is perfectly 
> acceptable.
>  We have a reputation for standing at away games,and have had lesser 
> allocations as a result, but I have not seen one single Leeds fans injured 
> as a result or even heard anyone saying that they or a friend etc have 
> been hurt because they were stood up !!
>
>  75,000 ManU fans were described by their own manager as having a morgue 
> like atmosphere and that is what will kill football in the end !! No 
> astmosphere, no fun , no fans !!
>
>  Dave
>  safe standing have been on the case for years but support from the
> stands is sadly lacking.............

> 

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