Welcome to the group Steve, Art is the founder of the group, and if I can speak for him, (Art is not a wordy guy. ) it was founded because of the lack of support by Legacy as a company that he started this group. I have always considered this group to be the missing manual, and the technical support for our machines. It is not sponsored or authorized or to my knowledge been asked to be shut down by Legacy. The owners of Legacy are aware of this group, and have posted messages on occasion. The owner of the company complemented me on an add on accessory that I'm currently prototyping.
After doing his own research Art built his own cnc machine before Legacy released their initial upgrade to our current machines. He bought some software from Legacy that they wrote to be used on their machines. The first version had bugs in it. When Art asked for an upgrade Legacy hung up on him saying it was for use on their equipment only. So, there is clearly some tension between the two individuals. I own a model 900, and I built my own homebuilt machine so I have a little input about the upgrade to a current machine. I've made quite a few mods and little improvements to my 900 to make the machine perform to my level of expectations. It's not a tight milling machine by any standards. If you do buy cnc upgrade I would suggest going with the performance package with the rack and pinion option with the smart touch pad. It's the best of the cheap options. If you have lots of time you can convert a base model to cnc after a little research. Your still going to have some problems. There is a steep learning curve in the cnc world and I have not seen legacy's cnc documentation, but they do have online tutorials that you can learn how the basic setup is done. Knowing how the manual machine works you can better adapt your gcode to use the cnc version more effectively. If your trying to make money right out of the box, a home built cnc takes just as much time to work out the bugs as the kit being offered by legacy. If you buy the OMG model, that has the best of all the components, but OMG that is expensive! You still have to learn to program the thing and how a router bit reacts to wood. I personally have never had good results with email support from Legacy. Email questions are about 20 to 2 replies. I finally gave up emailing. Apparently calling for support is the better way to go. The online videos and dvd's that come with the machine are enough to get you started. So, like any tool, it is what you make of it. Full of quirks that most of us have over come, and can help you with. Our achieves have a lot of old messages. You might want to look through them. I hope that helps. -Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveEJ" <s.jacobs0...@gmail.com> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Noobe questions.. Art, You are correct at saying "This question makes it very obvious that you are new to this forum", but I indicated that very thing in my opening message, " Folks, I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900.." I'm not sure if you were trying to slam me or not but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I value the opinions of true users of a machine hence the questions. I was burned on other equipment and have learned to ask. I am a bit surprised that there have not been any Legacy supporters comment on a Legacy forum. I guess this may be another indicator. I will start reading up on the Joe CNC but it is difficult to do that as the forums are closed to other than plans buyers. So as it is difficult to find info on the Legacy it is more difficult to find info on the Joe. I'm sure I'll get the normal, "What do you want to know" and that in itself is a problem as I don't have enough knowledge about it in order to ask good questions. Thanks for the feedback.. Steve On Jul 28, 1:11 pm, <akran...@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > How is the company to work with for service and support? This question makes it very obvious that you are new to this forum. I am not the one to answer this question because I believe that it is safe to say that I am VERY!! low on Legacy's love list. > > My sugestion is to build the Joe CNC 4by4 Hybrid and add a rotary axis. This will give you a fully functionaly CNC router and ability tt do rotary stock up tp 6" by 36". Total cost will be around $3500 which is les than the CNC 900 and a lot more useful machine. > > > > ---- SteveEJ <s.jacobs0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Pens, Mouldings - both straight and curved, spindles, pilasters, > > limited jointery. > > > Is it more cost effective to buy the CNC up front or get the non-CNC > > version and upgrade later? ie: will there be parts/adapters that are > > removed and not used anymore once the CNC is installed? > > > How is the company to work with for service and support? > > > Thanks again, > > > Steve > > > On Jul 27, 8:10 pm, <akran...@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > > There are several options avaliable but most important is what do you wnat the machine for > > > > ---- SteveEJ <s.jacobs0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900. There > > > > are several options available as well as a CNC upgrade. The Legacy web > > > > site is not very informative about the CNC upgrade(s). With money and > > > > the economy being as it is, and I am saving for the machine I want to > > > > make sure that I make good decisions up front. So with that in mind, > > > > is buying a 900 without the CNC upgrade smart or would it be better if > > > > I save a little longer and get the machine with the CNC upgrade? I > > > > don't want to but accessories and have them obsolete as soon as I get > > > > the upgrade. > > > > Another concern I have is the company itself. Post purchase service > > > > and help is a big thing for me. I may be a little gun shy here as I > > > > bought a CarveWright and had repair issues right out of the box. Down > > > > time really has put a damper on my enthuasiam towards the CarveWright. > > > > It is working well, for now and I wanted to mix the capabilities of > > > > each to make some unique hand down furniture, etc. > > > > Software requirements. Is there any software that is not provided > > > > with the CNC upgrade that would be considered essential? If so, how > > > > much more of an investment would that be? > > > > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience! > > > > > Steve Jacobs > > > > Brighton, TN- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Legacy-Ornamental-Mills -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---