Hello Bill,

I do remember this project.  Some candle stick!  And it make the case
for the horizontal "z" axis.  I guess it might be better called the
"orbital cutting axis" or something like that.  Z hardly describes
it.

Begat

On Feb 19, 5:51 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
> to show an idea of some of the potential of the tilting Z axis here is a
> link to a candle stick
> the base I made with the tilting z axis on my 
> 900http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/candlestick/ for some reason the
> link to the candle wont work on the
> page that shows my tilting z axis
>
> I did also make a 90degree router mount for my revo so I can do face work
> from the spindle
> mainly so I can turn wooden threads on it as well
> not sure if I ever posted it or not, never much interest in revo mods.
>
> Bill
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aussiman" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> 1.6 hp  ryobi it was the smallest 1/2 inch collect router i could find
> due to the space limitations between the rails I needed as small a
> router as i could get without loosing the 1/2 inch router bit option
> and it works fine as long as you don't get carried away with the size
> of your cuts
> and i have a plunge depth of over 6 inches while still keeping a quick
> plunge option on the router of 2 inches
> and as you may remember it also gives me the option of turning wooden
> threads
> I made a wooden nut and bolt with it. great for making boxes with a
> screw on lid
> I still have to finish it by adding a vertical template follower like
> you it will happen when i get a chance
>
> Bill
>
> On Feb 20, 8:45 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > Bill
> > I have always liked your Z axis mod.
> > the plunge router on the front, what make is that,and how many horse power
> > is that?
> > Your modifications to the Z axis solve every problem that I have with the
> > Z
> > axis with is mainly the quick plunge element, and offer the horizontal
> > mode
> > for faceplate turning.
> > All that I can say is Wow! Thanks again for sharing it with us. This is
> > one
> > modification for the Legacy that someday I will have to do for my self.
> > (mark my words, It will happen,I just don't know when.) ;-)
> > C.A.G.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
> > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> > >I made my own Z axis and went a little further so it did more
> > > here it is if any body has not seen it yet
> > >http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/tilting-z-axis/index.html
> > > Bill
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
> > > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> > >> The crank handle is attached to the screw that raises and lowers the
> > >> z-axis.
> > >> The large control box controls the motor that drives the spindle and
> > >> the
> > >> x-axis.
>
> > >> I need to run folks, be back in 12 hours.
>
> > >> -Tim
>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "cpeel" <pee...@comcast.net>
> > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > >> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:48 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> > >>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-Woodworking-Machine-Model-1800-/150753...
> > >> I just copied the link off the toolbar if it does not work just go to
> > >> ebay.com and search Legacy 1800 all catogories and it will come up
>
> > >> On Feb 19, 10:17 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
>
> > >>> Do you have a link to a motor driven z-axis? It must be the cnc
> > >>> upgrade
> > >>> or
> > >>> after market. I'm not sure why as a stand alone unit you would want
> > >>> that.
>
> > >>> If you look back in the old messages there is a message that shows
> > >>> what
> > >> ONE
> > >>> version of the z-axis looks like from all around. There where at least
> > >>> three versions.
>
> > >>> Begat,
>
> > >>> I've always been available to make a z-axis. I don't have the money or
> > >> need
> > >>> to prototype this. If someone would like to assume the financial
> > >>> risks,
> > >>> I
> > >>> will make it happen. I've had all sorts of dreams of making a z-axis
> > >>> that
> > >>> rides on supported linear rails but the costs add up really quickly.
> > >>> The
> > >>> other alternative is my original preferred method and that is to use
> > >>> BWC
> > >> "V"
> > >>> bearings and track. It's been used on industrial machines for longer
> > >>> than
> > >> I
> > >>> can remember so I know it's a proven method. The costs add up quickly
> > >>> as
> > >>> well.
>
> > >>> Side note, reminds me that 80/20 rail is available in any length plus
> > >>> free
> > >>> shipping to my Grainger as well. You pay more than you would by buying
> > >>> direct, but shipping by truck really kills the deal.
>
> > >>> -Tim
>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "cpeel" <pee...@comcast.net>
> > >>> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > >>> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:44 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> > >>> Thanks Tim the link helped to see what it looks like. The one 1800 on
> > >>> ebay today appears to be a motor driven z axis
>
> > >>> On Feb 19, 9:29 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>> > The z-axis is a pretty stable unit. You gain enough travel in the
> > >>> > z-axis
> > >>> > that you never have to raise the bed for short bits. You also gain
> > >>> > visibility and easy access to the bits for changes. You loose the
> > >> ability
> > >>> > to make fast plunge cuts since the router is now controlled by the
> > >> z-axis
> > >>> > screw. I think people learning which way to turn the screw but it's
> > >>> > confusing in the beginning. Another thing is you have to buy a
> > >>> > different
> > >>> > style of router if you find a used Legacy z-axis.
>
> > >>> > You can build one, the mechanical side is not that complicated. You
> > >>> > can
> > >>> > start from scratch and use some industrial components. If you want
> > >>> > to
> > >> use
> > >>> > Legacy's components that might be a little more difficult. I'm
> > >>> > hearing
> > >>> > rumors that the aluminum rail is on backorder or not available for
> > >>> > sale
> > >> at
> > >>> > the moment. Give them a call and see if you can buy 4 top hat
> > >>> > bearings
> > >> and
> > >>> > 48" of rail. Then all you need is some components laser cut, formed
> > >>> > and
> > >>> > machined. From my point of view, that's the easy part.
>
> > >>> > Here's Legacy's old page detailing the
>
> > >> Z-axis.http://web.archive.org/web/20061026074809/http://legacywoodworking.co
> > >>> ...
>
> > >>> > -Tim
>
> > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > From: "cpeel" <pee...@comcast.net>
> > >>> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > >>> > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:42 AM
> > >>> > Subject: z axix upgrade for 1800
>
> > >>> > > Can anyone give me or direct me to some information on a z axis
> > >>> > > upgrade. Will it give you more plunge depth, do you loose any
> > >>> > > stability, and since Legacy does not produce it can I build one. I
> > >>> > > saw one for sale in New Hampshire on a 1800 but I do not want to
> > >>> > > sink
> > >>> > > more money into another machine until I can better operate the one
> > >>> > > I
> > >>> > > have. Also who in the group is close to Mississippi, I would love
> > >>> > > to
> > >>> > > spend a little time with someone who has more experience with the
> > >>> > > Legacy if they can stand a truck load of questions.
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