I'm sure that was a typo when you said 45 degrees on the table saw.  That would 
make a square box :-).   If your stave is 3.375" wide after cutting there 
should have been no problem.   I don't mean to be insulting but if you started 
with a piece of wood that was 3-3/8" wide and then cut the angles, the piece 
might have ended up closer to 3-1/8" wide if you factor in the saw blade kerf.  
Even then the piece would have been around 7-1/4" once turned.  All I can say 
is check the width of your staves again and report back.

-Tim

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Edgell 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:16 PM
  Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula



  see i am doing 45 degree cuts on a table saw, like the  router bit they have 
at magnate, i just think it is easier and allows for more speed, so i was using 
their formula , and came up with 3 and 3/8

   
  On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:

    I just looked at the specifics of what you are trying and your numbers 
should have worked as shown by this drawing.



    At 3.375" you would have had extra room to make a 8" column (assuming 8 
sided polygon).  

    I'm not a math guy and the formula to find the length was complicated to me 
which is why I made my spreadsheet program.   To find the length of the segment 
you take the desired outside diameter and multiply it by the tangent of the 
miter angle which is calculated by dividing 360 by 2 times the number of sides. 
 So,  8" * tan(22.5) simplifies to 8 * .414 and that equals 3.313" which is 
pretty close to my cad model.  I'm not sure where you went wrong. 

    There is a birdsmouth calculation in magnate's catalog that even works for 
polygons.  For 8 sided polygons divide the diameter by 2.414.  That equals 
3.314 which is close to my model as well.  That number to divide things by is 
going to change depending on the number of sides.  I've got that information 
buried somewhere so I'll leave that up to other that might know.  

    It sure would be good to know what went wrong.

    -Tim

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: James Edgell 
      To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:21 PM
      Subject: could someone explain the formula


      on 8 and 12 sided hollow columns, this is the first time i am gonna 
attempt doing one of these for an idea i have and my numbers dident come out 
right, lol, when figuring for the diameter of the column. i wanted an 8 inch 
round and cut an 8 sided boards at 3 and 3/8 inches but came up way short when 
using 2 inch thick wood. appreciate any help you might be able to 
offer,,,,thanks,,,,,JD 

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