That’s probably what it would take for me to learn to run a CNC, locked up in a 
room with 2 monitors for a weekend, I hear the food is good at the county jail 
also, LOL.

Mike K




-----Original Message-----
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
jwb...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Cc: Roger P
Subject: Re: CNC Bowls

Aspire software is very easy to learn, I learned after buying the software 
locked myself in a room for a weekend sat at a computer (It had 2 monitors) and 
on one monitor I watched the tutorial and on the other I did what was being 
done, I would stop and rewind the class several times and learned most of it in 
a weekend.

If I were to start again I think I would learn Turbo cad first, Legacy has I 
think 6 classes on learning that free on the website.  It is about 40 bucks and 
even if you do not use it with a CNC you can use it with other projects.

After learning to use the cad (Turbo Cad) I would learn how to use Aspirt or V 
carve Pro.

I sent an e-mail  earlier but for some reason I don't see it posted so I will 
say it again.  The only way I can see turning your bowl on a CNC would be to 
turn it in 2 parts.  One part would be the top the other would be the bottom, 
then you would glue it together and turn the outside.

Someone had stated earlier about the machine needing 11 inches of travel to cut 
the inside, if the bowl is 11 inches tall the machine would need about 24 
inches of travel.  When you are making a cut the spindle will touch off on a 
smart pad, that will basically say the router bit is here when the spindle is 
here.  then the machine will raise the spindle and move to the work and start 
cutting.  so you would need to raise an 11 inch bit up high enough to go over 
an 11 inch bowl.

Jeff Becker


---- Roger P <rhp...@googlemail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Mike K
> I just got my new smart phone today and I understand your comment BUT I think 
> that driving a CNC is actually easier than phaffing around with a smart 
> phone.  Take a look at the training material on the Vectric website and I 
> think you will see the light faster than with a smart phone.  Go to 
> http://support.vectric.com/training-material and choose either V-Carve PRO 6 
> or Aspire, download the trial software and follow through the training 
> material.
> 
> I have been selling Legacy CNC since Andy introduced them some years ago, I 
> had never learnt to use one until two months ago when having sold my business 
> I had time to sit down to learn. I started with V-Carve PRO and made a sign, 
> it was readable but not saleable. The second one was good even my wife 
> thought so.  Also look at the Legacy CNC site training area for help and at 
> 65 years young you have no excuse, I am into my 72nd year.
> 
> Good luck
> Euro Roger 
> From: Michael Kratky 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:24 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: CNC Bowls
> 
> Ron,
> 
>  
> 
> Outstanding craftsmanship, I’ve been turning for over 20 years traveling to 
> such shows all over the US and have turned just about everything except 
> segmented bowls although I do vertical staved versions. I bought my Legacy 
> 1200 about 10 years ago to enhance my turnings but still have yet to take 
> advantage of it. CNC has my attention but I have a hard enough time with my 
> smart phone and at age 65 I’m beginning to realize that it’s hard to teach an 
> old dog new tricks.  
> 
>  
> 
> Mike K
> 
>  
> 
> “God give me patience, because if you give me stength I’m gong to need bail 
> money too!”
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> ronkir...@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:56 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: CNC Bowls
> 
>  
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I haven't been involved with the group in quite awhile. I attended Andy's CNC 
> lecture at the Baltimore woodworker show. I was very impressed with the 
> capabilities of CNC and VCarePro/Aspire software. The software is very user 
> friendly.
> 
> I wanted to ask the CNC people in the group if they every made a segmented 
> bowl using CNC capabilities.
> 
> I make segmented bowls because with solid bowls a lot of the wood lies on the 
> floor in the form of shavings. I use a lot of expensive woods therefore 
> shavings has to be at a minimum. The other reason for segmenting is the 
> various designs one can incorporate in the bowl rings. I have attached 
> pictures of a few of the bowls I've made and turned on my Shopsmith. These 
> bowls are 14 1/2" in diameter and 9 3/4"deep. One could add a ring at a time 
> and turn each ring and continue this process until the top ring is added and 
> turn. Or one could add all the rings and turn the assembled bowl at once. In 
> either case the capability to handle a 14 1/2"' diameter and depth of 9 3/4" 
> would be required. I looked into using the manual Legacy ( I have a 1000EX) 
> to make the rings. I would have to have the ring mounted on the rotary and 
> rotate below the lower rails. However, the height of the feature ring ( the 
> one with the complex design at the center of the bowl ) is around 2 1/2" to 
> 3". The only way I could do it was to have taller elevation legs. Legacy 
> doesn't make them anymore. Now with CNC mounted in a gantry one could turn a 
> ring at least at 14 1/2" or greater. The circular cutting can be performed 
> with small advances in x,y for greater accuracy. Or will a rotary table still 
>  be required to get a smooth surface? By the way if I were to get CNC, bowl 
> making would not be my only reason. What is the limitation on the Z axis 
> travel with the gantry?( What is the deepest bowl that could be turned). I 
> would be interested in your comments.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ron K.         
> 
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