Joe, Which Legacy models do you have?
Begat On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM, joe biunno <finun...@aol.com> wrote: > begat, > you are 100% correct...it seems american taste has shifted into > a "minimalist" mode...furniture having turnings and carvings are not in > vogue and that opens the doors for any decent woodworkers who have a table > saw and band saw to make functional,straight-line furniture...now, i am not > knocking that type of furniture because we also make it when asked...but it > knocks down the price point due to the increased competition and larger > shops are suffering...i know a few in my area that have either gone out or > downsized quite a bit...their overheads are just eating them alive and they > can't meet the price point that a one or two man shop can...very > frustrating...i could even make an educated prediction that there is a good > chance i will never see a break-even return on the money i spent to > acquire, then modify, the two legacys i have...i am glad i did it though > because i always wanted one and i enjoy playing with woodworking > equipment/tools/machinery... > > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:51:16 PM UTC-5, Begat wrote: > >> Joe, >> >> >> The bench, especially the legs, look great. I have also concluded that >> the Legacy mills, whether cnc or ornamental, are really about spirals and >> twists. And this is the problem--that's Victorian stuff and people want >> fairly plain Arts and Crafts mostly. >> >> Begat >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:11 PM, joe biunno <finu...@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> ok, seems you guys miss me and my insanity...update time...well, >>> business STINKS!...have not had an opportunity to take "elvis" out for a >>> test run yet, things are that bad...any straight fluting or reeding(on >>> poles,legs or finials) we might do, we do on our shaper using a "french" >>> spindle and an indexing head...excellent for straight and/or shaped >>> pieces...the legacy could never do this as fast as this method does the >>> job...the legacy is used for twist work...and so far not a single job has >>> been presented to us...but the cnc debate is interesting...just finished >>> making a pair of benches that had a custom designed leg(see attached photo) >>> that i was able to send to a friend's company that has a 10 spindle >>> computerized CNC machine...we first carved a model leg, he then scanned it, >>> prepped the blanks and the machine took over...automatic,computerized bit >>> changes made his work none labor intensive...of course there was a good >>> amount of time in the scanning process and then a lot of time cleaning the >>> scan up and additional detailing that the scanning missed...all done at a >>> reasonable price that fit into our budget...makes investing in CNC >>> equipment very attractive but only if the work is there to keep the machine >>> going...and there lies the problem...from a business standpoint, our shop >>> currently does not have the work to justify the purchase of a CNC...and to >>> also consider the time in learning various code programs and what not...now >>> if i was 30 years old, my approach would be different...to think i might >>> have opportunities to use a CNC over the next 35-40 years, i think i would >>> consider making the investment...but at this juncture(59), i feel i cannot >>> have an expensive piece of equipment sitting idle in my shop...so i feel it >>> best to stick to farming certain parts of a job out to other shops that >>> have the latest CNC machines and using my legacy for poles, longer work and >>> any twist work that i might have...and i do check in on this group several >>> times a day and am especially interested in the drill press add-on that was >>> posted not to long ago...this was something i had on a list of accessories >>> we planned to make for the big guy...except we were planning to set up a >>> quick release and attach method for different accessories like a drill >>> press and perhaps a mortiser and of course routers(one with the >>> angled/rotary table we made and a straight forward router)...all these >>> would simply "click" onto the Z axis platform...now some of these ideas are >>> a bit out there and perhaps not very prudent but since machinery and >>> machinery modifications are also a bit of a hobby to me, i enjoy spending >>> some spare time and some spare money(if i ever get any!) to achieve some of >>> these goals...certainly will post photos of anything worthwhile...any >>> comments,good or bad, are certainly welcome...joe biunno >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:48:28 AM UTC-5, Va Oak wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Joe! >>>> >>>> Yes, you Joe. - we have not heard from you in quite a while. Are you >>>> busy building an even bigger LOM? ;-) How about some pics of what "The >>>> Beast of The East" has produced - like perhaps some really long & fancy >>>> drapery rods? >>>> Hope all is well with you & your company (and that you are still in >>>> business/able to stay that way - given our current economic situation). >>>> >>>> Mac >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: joe biunno >>>> Sent: Feb 25, 2014 8:40 AM >>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> Cc: mwfo...@earthlink.net >>>> Subject: Re: Legacy Artisan 72 for Sale in Southern California asking >>>> 18000 >>>> >>>> mac, are you referring to me?...joe biunno >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 12:52:47 PM UTC-5, Va Oak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have not heard from "Jumpin' Joe" in New York in quite a while - >>>>> maybe, if he sees the post, he'll travel to CA and bring it "back East". >>>>> :-) >>>>> What about that, Joe? >>>>> >>>>> Mac >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: "storm...@snet.net" >>>>> Sent: Feb 24, 2014 12:42 PM >>>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Legacy Artisan 72 for Sale in Southern California asking >>>>> 18000 >>>>> >>>>> I would be interested if I wasn't at the other end of the country. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >>> group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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