Interesting thanks joe Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joe biunno Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 9:25 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: linear bearing system upgrade for a legacy machine hey bill...in regards to work support, this extended machine is being primarily set up for twisting drapery poles, which,at times, exceed 12 ft in length...it will also do bed posts,legs and finials but these are shorter and/or thicker so no issues with the work piece sagging...for the poles though, we made wooden supports that have adjustment features built into them(see photo attached)...these will allow adjustments on the y plain and the z plain...the poles are pre-made before mounting into the legacy...so we made two supports for each diameter of pole we use on a regular basis...1 1/2",2", 2 1/4", etc....if an odd job comes up, they are simple to make to fit any work piece, even square...the maximun length the machine can handle is 15ft...so with two supports, the max. length between any support is 5ft...maybe a small issue with the 1 1/2' work piece(depending on the cut), but certainly adequate for the other sizes...i originally designed a support that would have interchangeable heads, but that was getting a bit complicated so we opted for a simpler concept...we intend on doing all of our cuts from the side, or 3 o'clock position, but did want to encapsulate the work piece...thus the adjustable top piece on the support to allow the piece to rotate, but with no play(sometimes the poles we use might have a small warp to them,thus the necessity to keep them in place along the x plain)...thanks for the reply...joe On Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:25:59 PM UTC-5, aussiman wrote: I totally understand your concern about lead screw twisting but I really don’t think it will be an issue unless your carriage is too stiff to move which it should not be. The legacy saddle properly fitted moves quite easily and smoothly. What I was wondering is sag in your long job you want to do, what sort of steady and how many will you use over a long length. Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of joe biunno Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 6:17 AM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> Subject: Re: linear bearing system upgrade for a legacy machine tim, you are 100% right in saying that i am getting ahead of myself here...and i would attempt to do a twist run on a long piece to see if there would be any problems...but it is my job in our shop to anticipate potential problems and come up with a solution...and i totally get the backlash issue with the gears...been dealing with that issue for 25+ years on our original machine...but if the linear mod is an easy install and i can get the necessary pieces to do it at a reasonable price, i feel it is a worthwhile investment, regardless...as someone mentioned before, template following would be much easier,straight reeding and fluting would also be much quicker(we currently do straight work on a shaper, but i would rather do it on the legacy using a router)...your suggestion is a logical one and i will follow it...but what the heck, i enjoy making and/or modifying machinery anyway, LOL...and so long as the bank account can handle it!...thanks for the replies and input...i'll keep the group updated...thanks...joe On Sunday, March 2, 2014 1:34:31 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote: I think your addressing backlash in the gear setup more than the chance of the leadscrew twisting. We are encouraged to always cut the spiral from the same direction. This takes out any slack in the gears when under power. May I suggest you might be getting ahead of yourself and give the machine a fair test and see what you think. I don't have any information on the 40 foot machine. Chances of a Legacy employee chiming in hear is about once every other year. I do know they are still monitoring the group. -Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: joe biunno To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:06 AM Subject: Re: linear bearing system upgrade for a legacy machine thanks tim,will do......and bill,my concerns are not in the lead screw drooping or bending when in use, but in the lead screw "rotating" or turning a number of degrees before the carriage begins to move...the lead screw on my machine has excellent support both vertically and horizontally...a total of five, the two ends and three swing-away supports we made...so there is no more than 48" between supports,which seems to be fine...so no worries there...thanks guys...joe On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:33:40 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: Joe, Take a look at Bishop-Wisecarver and Igus since you're kicking tires. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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