"often wonder how they achieved what they did achieve"...perhaps this can be answered like a lot of other seemingly impossible builds are answered lately...ALIEN INTERVENTION!...LOL!...all kidding aside, i have found in 42 years of work that necessity is the mother of invention...and with team work, amazing things can be accomplished and/or made...joe
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:17:26 PM UTC-4, ITwoodwork wrote: > > Hi Guys > Very interesting video and nice to see that craftsmanship still exists. > Thinking about it there is nothing new there and I am not belittling it but > in Europe buildings have passed the test of time using these techniques, in > fact people love to buy barn conversions that normally incorporate this > type of construction and they pay top $. > > I look at old buildings when I drive around the UK and often wonder how > they achieved what they did achieve. Take my home town, well it was really > a village when I was a boy, of Portchester in southern England. It has a > castle dating back to Roman times > http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/daysout/properties/portchester-castle/ > and then a little further in land there is Salisbury Cathedral > http://www.salisburycathedral.org.uk/ with its spire around 400 feet tall > built in 1230. You have to ask yourself how did they achieve these wondrous > feats and without building regulations and the tools we take for granted. > > Portchester is at the top of Portsmouth Harbour and in the City of > Portsmouth we have two famous wooden ships. The Mary Rose built in 1510 > http://www.maryrose.org/discover-our-collection/story-of-the-ship/henry-viii-the-mary-rose/ > > served King Henry VIII for 35 years before going base over apex and > sinking, allegedly tacking and firing a broadside at the French, this is a > well known English hobby. She was raised a few years ago > http://www.maryrose.org/discover-our-collection/story-of-the-ship/henry-viii-the-mary-rose/and > > has yielded much knowledge about her construction. Then we have HMS > Victory, flagship of Admiral Horatio Nelson, and again a marvel of wooden > construction launched in 1765 > http://www.historicdockyard.co.uk/hmsvictory/ . > > Having been able to see these things as a child without lots of parental > control must be part of the reason I like wood working and associated > tools. It has just occurred to me that even while I was in the Royal Air > Force working on Radar the radar towers were 350 feet tall and of wooden > construction, and bloody scary to climb and being right on the cliff tops > they would move with the North Sea winds. > > Bring back hand tools! > Regards > Radar Roger > > > *From:* 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <javascript:> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:08 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > *Cc:* mwfo...@earthlink.net <javascript:> > *Subject:* Re: Have YOU made a "splice" like this? > > okay, being the pessimist that i am, here goes...a few observations, in > no particular order...1) this seems to be a beam that is to be used in > exposed wood construction. i would think it would not pass our building > codes. but we do not know the length of the beam, so can't say for sure 2) > is it practical to do this type of joinery, when thinking of a building > budget? i would think a lot of us could do this joint after seeing this > video, but exactly how much time does it take to complete it? i am in a > business where i have seen people spend ridiculously large amounts of money > on making things, but even so, every job has a balance between artistry and > budget. but i will assume this temple's construction budget warrants this > type of intense labor 3)regarding that driven-in wedge. the grain of the > wood seems to run the length of the wedge. question-if the wedge should > shrink over time, would that compromise the joint? since the tightness of > the wedge is what keeps everything tightly together. not saying that the > joint would ever separate,obviously, but still, would the beam ever sag > just a bit, because of wood shrinkage? even the small tab at the end of the > joint, if it shrinks, could cause a bit of sagging, perhaps...personally, i > would go with laminated, solid wood(not the "strand" stuff) beams with > decorative iron joist hangers and/or brackets and braces...when it comes to > a roof over my head, i'll go with strength (with small bit of artistry) > over pure artistry every time...but i do find it interesting...thanks for > the post and all comebacks welcome! > > On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:37:20 AM UTC-4, Va Oak wrote: >> >> Mike, >> Thanks for sharing the link - I hadn't seen it. >> That's what you call "precision joinery on a MASSIVE scale"! I am >> impressed at how well it all seems to fit together so tightly. Appears the >> only metal/steel used in the construction of the temple is in the blades >> used to make the cuts - NOT in screws & bolts. Amazing! >> I can't help but wonder - this method of construction must be more >> seismically compatible - vs using bolts/screws. What do you think? >> I shudder at thinking what this would cost to do in North America. It >> would probably never pass "code" either. >> Any bets that Joe B. in NYC is already figuring out how to make these in >> his "Big Bertha"? LoL >> (Joe - you there?) >> Mac >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" >> Sent: Oct 28, 2014 9:03 PM >> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Have YOU made a "splice" like this? >> >> Intro Video >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuBBDDOSSY0 >> On 10/28/2014 8:03 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: >> >> Look at their intro video, it shows quite a few of their joints in >> construction of a temple. >> >> Mike >> OK >> On 10/28/2014 6:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: >> >> Hello Mac. >> Now that's impressive! The machine is pretty Cool, but that interlocking >> wedge joint is something that I would like to learn more about . >> Thanks for the heads up. >> C.A.G. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *mwfo...@earthlink.net >> *To: *"LOM - Tim" <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:59:19 PM >> *Subject: *Have YOU made a "splice" like this? >> >> I know that some of ya'll will end up trying to replicate what this >> craftsman is seen doing. >> (Joe - that includes you. Send us pics of you making this joint.) >> >> >> http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/hand-tools/a-traditional-locking-scarf-jointnot-so-traditionally-made_o.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=jump&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=JLCNL_102314&day=2014-10-23&he=1b08e8b0803fc50bb62caed67108d12dfaaabc74 >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Mac >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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