Interesting processes, guys. And the results speak for themselves. Really nice. I'm not ready to move into bone just yet, but I was piqued..... DanK
On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 6:32:50 AM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote: > thanks Bill, > > I thought it gave it some character at least. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop > 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:04 AM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > >> I do like how you stacked the bone to get a striped pattern Tim >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 July 2022 11:59 AM >> *To:* LOM Group <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Hey Dan, >> >> >> >> Not sure if you saw my bone turning a while ago, but after Curt taught me >> his process, I come up with a >> >> little different process to keep the discs flat, takes a bit longer but >> they are gap free. >> >> I have additional bones ready to cut but have not started making the >> discs yet. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Tim. >> >> Dan working with bone is not all that hard. but it dose take a little >> persistence to take a bone, which is hollow, and the edges/walls of the >> bone are not uniformed in thickness, and making into something useable that >> can be turned on the Legacy. >> >> If you think of bone like wood, there is a lot of work that is needed in >> order to take a tree and make it into a board. things that need to be known >> like when the wood is Green and how it will handle when it is dried. >> >> Green bone can not be worked, due to its greasy/oily make up. It needs to >> be cleaned, dried, and died/ whitened before you can start cutting. >> >> Tim's butcher shop is cheaper way to go, but time is money, and it may >> not be the best way to go when you want to make something. >> >> I use "Red Barn" Natural's (un-filled) for my bone that I turn. (sold in >> pet food stores.) These bones are dried and already whitened, All that I >> need to do is Cut, and glue. then turn. >> >> >> >> Now that may be over simplifying the process. But in a nut shell that's >> it. >> >> >> >> If you want to know more, On all the process. I can walk you through ALL >> the steps, from 1-100 or the quicker method. there are no secrets here, >> Just hopes that everyone can learn for each-other. I am offering to share >> the process that I know, and perhaps one day someone out there will find a >> better method? >> >> >> >> Have a good night. >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 06:47:03 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler < >> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hey Dan I get mine from our local Grocery market. They have a butcher >> there. >> >> We have to do the drying and cleaning here, plus it gets a little >> expensive. but it's a lot of fun like Curt indicates. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:30 AM Dan Krager <cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow. That is stunning. Do you have sources that butcher? Inquiring >> minds want to know where one gets bone material like that? Not in my near >> future, but curious. >> >> >> >> DanK >> >> >> >> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 2:40:37 AM UTC-4 aussiman wrote: >> >> Beautiful Curt beautiful nicest one yet love the finished white color >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, 11 July 2022 1:37 PM >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Hello everyone. >> >> >> >> Got some time to finish my 6 start bone looking glass today. >> >> Here are some photo's. >> >> C.A.G. >> >> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote: >> >> Nice patterns Tim, not quite a brick pattern but real close I still like >> it it’s the TZ pattern lol >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 July 2022 10:14 AM >> *To:* LOM Group <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Well this looks pretty close to the pen? >> >> Mine is not clean but it sure worked out like it should have. >> >> We probably should have done a new subject? >> >> l >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 1:54 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Cant wait to see what you get curt >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2022 10:37 PM >> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Yes Tim, the idea is the use the X axis to make the cut, and then index, >> >> I plan to try this pattern again, The only problems that I see with this >> design is to get the look and spacing correct. >> >> We will see? ;-) Perhaps tomorrow morning before work? if not the Sunday. >> >> >> >> talk to you and all more latter. >> >> >> >> Have a good day. >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 06:37:52 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler < >> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> That is some fabulous work. Wow. >> >> I'm assuming one just does flat cuts and just keeps rotating the pen or >> piece >> >> until complete then move over, rotate so much and resume the same process >> over? >> >> Curt your indexing system would really be a huge benefit in this process >> correct? >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 10:11 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> I would go for a 1/8 strait bit on something like a ½ to ¾ dia blank >> that’s how I would try it looking at legacy videos I remember on bigger >> they use like ¼ strait bit. Also I remember a spiral brick pattern too here >> is a pic of it done on pens >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2022 12:37 PM >> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Funny you mention it. >> >> >> >> NO not in bone, but I just tried one in wood today. IT did not work out >> as I had hoped for. I used the wrong router bit, I should have used an >> 1/8" or a 1/4" straight bit, instead I used a 3/8" the size was not right >> for the small part. >> >> >> >> I think I will try it again, that cut might look good on a bone handle, >> if I can get the spacing and cutter? >> >> >> >> Thank you for the idea. >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 09:30:20 PM EDT, <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Love your bone turning curt cant wait to see what you make next have you >> ever done a brick pattern in bone yet? >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2022 10:30 AM >> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: New Bone turning >> >> >> >> Hello Gavin and Brigitte >> >> >> >> Made one more bone disk glue up today. (If all goes well I should have >> another turning next week?) >> >> >> >> the question on the glue. I've used a number of different glues form 2 >> part epoxy to the quick epoxy glue syringe >> >> type (sold at most hardware stores) But the last 3 turnings that I've >> done I have been using the Gorilla Glue clear, I find it easer to >> >> use, cleaner/less messy, due to the tip on the bottle, makes it easer to >> apply the glue the bone disks one at a time. >> >> >> >> Also the Gorilla Glue clear has a much longer cure time, (I don't know if >> that is good or bad? but I have to wait for hours to days before >> >> I can cut the blank/bone glue up.) In this case I am not in a hurry so >> it doesn't matter. ;-) >> >> >> >> I made a barrel trimmer type of cutter to cut out my bones, I use a >> diamond hole saw (amazon they are cheap!) to cut the disk >> >> I also added a router bit in the center, this way I can cut and >> flatten one side of the bone, Then I can take a second D.H. the same size >> >> and cut through the bone to make the disk. from this point I either sand >> the disk, or face off the disk on my lathe to get it flat and true. >> >> >> >> The process of how I do the cutting and glue up, is always changing, in >> the attempt to find the best method. >> >> >> >> What I can tell you is. Bone is a very Neat material to turn, its hard >> like stone to the touch, with a nice cool feel when you pick it up. >> >> It looks like Ivory, dose not need polishing, but if polished it shines >> to a brilliance gleam that is un-matched by anything that I know >> >> of. >> >> And the Big bonus is, Almost No one uses it, So what ever I make is a one >> of a kind, that you will not find anywhere else. So any >> >> gift I make for someone, instantly becomes a family heirloom Or treasure >> to be pasted down, many years after Im gone form this earth. >> >> >> >> If you have any other questions, Please ask. This is a learning >> experience for all of us. ;-) >> >> >> >> have a good night. >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 07:52:10 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < >> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hey Denson, >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes I think we do need to make a bone ring. First I have to get the >> ringing out of my ears from watching NASCAR. We where only about 100 ft >> away. Just on the way back. >> >> It was louder then my Routers for sure. >> >> I do have a fresh dry batch of bone again too. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2022, 10:21 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Great job Curt!! >> >> Happy 4th to all youse guys.😁 >> >> Tim we need to try making a ring from bone. >> >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> >> >> On Jul 3, 2022, at 9:18 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello Tim >> >> >> >> Im not exactly sure why the burning came to be? It could be that the bit >> was getting dull? but I think it was more due to me making a very light cut >> and moving slower then I normally do. ( un-like wood it the router bit >> moves slow the heat/friction of the rotation of the bit will cause this >> problem.) I made a adjustment to the depth of cut and that adjustment made >> one rope slightly deeper then the others, So I went back and re-cut all 6 >> ropes at the same cut depth, This is when the burning started. >> >> Luckily for me most of the burning can be removed with just a little >> elbow grease. (sanding and then buffing.) >> >> >> >> Have a good 4th of July. Enjoy your Family Time! ;-) >> >> >> >> talk to you and all more latter. >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 05:55:58 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler < >> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Very nice Curt. >> >> Excited to see where you apply the handle as well. >> >> Was your bit getting full that it caused burning, or just hard to get out >> of the cut soon enough? >> >> Curious if you did any of the process that I was doing to get a nice >> tight glue joint? >> >> >> >> Talk more later my Son and I are off to NASCAR today . >> >> Happy 4th to all >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Tim J Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork and Specialty >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 8:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone. >> >> >> >> Ive been working on new/different ways to work with bone. >> >> >> >> I used a different process to cut the bone disks out today, I have some >> more ideas that I will be >> >> covering in my details latter. >> >> >> >> >> >> Today's project is a 6 start bone handle. >> >> >> >> There are a few small burn marks that need to be sanded off, but other >> then that >> >> I think this handle will do the job I wanted it for. >> >> >> >> Have a great Independence day everyone.(4th of July holiday weekend.) >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/142855812.112113.1656811394925%40mail.yahoo.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/142855812.112113.1656811394925%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 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