Yes for sure Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Tim.
>
> One more note on this line of thought.
>
> The ART is more then what is just popular today. When I started wood
> turning, spindles were all anyone did. Today most WOOD lathe turners only
> do, Pen or bowls, and spindles have been all but forgotten.
>
> The very same thing has happened in the OT world.  Rose Engine lathes are
> the King. but the Original Holzapfel lathe's (which is a closer cousin to
> the Legacy and the modern Steel lathe.)  is all but forgotten.
> http://www.lathes.co.uk/holtzapffel/ .
>
> The reason I state this, is for two reasons,  First is for Learning, If
> you want to compare the OT world to the OM world, You need to think of the
> concept .Apples to Apples.
> And secondly.  The Legacy may not be the KING, but it is one Awesome tool,
> that is way more Royal then the ordinary wood lathe and other wood working
> tools that are normally sold and used today in most wood shops. ;-)
>
> Have a great day everyone.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 06:36:15 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well said Curt.  Yes the LOM's are a true skill breaker as the RM's are in
> that erra. for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Tim.  (and everyone.)
>
> I have used the Nova O.T. in the past.
> It was a Neat jig.
> https://teknatool.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/19000076497-nova-ornamental-turner
>
> But sadly it is no longer made.
>
> When I bought my Legacy, I quickly saw The potential that was there.
> I have spent a lot of time trying to make the most with my Legacy.
>
> The Ornamental turning world is for the most part a fantasy, "True"
> Craftsmen and Artists of the 1700 & 1800's, making things , that were so
> highly skilled that, Other masters even 300 yrs latter, have a hard time
> trying to figure out how it was done.
> Today we are very lucky that there are people out there who are dedicated
> enough to learn and share there knowledge with others.
> The Legacy Ornamental mill, is not a true OT machine, but it dose share at
> least in a small part, SOME of this very rich history, the quest for
> knowledge.
> For me, the Legacy (LOM) And this group, have helped me become more, then
> what I though possible just some year ago.
> Thank you everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 10:11:36 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well thats a spoiler, here we thought someone found something you
> did'nt know existed.
> Should have known the Rose Engine lathe of any kind would be no secret to
> you Curt. lol.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 7:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Yes that is the modern rose
> http://bicitywoodturners.com/newsletters/articles/Rose_Engine.pdf
>
> They have been around almost as long as Legacy.
>
> There are a number of company's who make DIY OT stuff, Like the  Medium
> Density Fiberboard  (MDF Rose) made by Jon McGill.
> https://mdfre2.colvintools.com/
> Rambling Rose. http://ornamentalroseengine.com/download/rre/index.htm
>
> And the https://lindowmachineworks.com/ Lindow White machine...
> and one of my favorites (names, by Bill Ooms) the CORN Lathe.
> https://www.billooms.com/cornlathe/index.html
> Its a CNC unit.
>
> To name a few.
>
> Legacy was in good knitch, It did much the same things as all these
> machines but it was also a little differently then what most in the OT
> world made things.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting your screw and wing nut.  Things like your
> posting, Just go to show/Remind everyone, That its the Artist who makes the
> art, not the tool.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 07:31:02 PM EDT, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
>
> That is really going to drive Curtis CRAZY!
> On 8/22/2022 5:31 PM, Dan Krager wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen or experienced this item
> <http://bicitywoodturners.com/newsletters/articles/Rose_Engine.pdf>?  I
> stumbled into it looking at how to machine wood threads on the REVO and was
> amazed.
>
> In short, it's a rose engine that bolts directly to a Jet 1014 standard
> lathe and offers almost all the capabilities of the rose engine lathe of
> antiquity.  For those wearing hip boots and waders in this OM business,
> this seems like the cat's meow.
>
> I'm not deep into extensive ornamental turning as it is a very specialty
> item that takes a lot of time, but for those with creative energy to burn,
> this would be a fun specialty.
>
> BTW, haven't found internal or external threading discussions yet....
>
> DanK
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