I think they will still make these and they work with the new style gears. I suggested he call Cindy, it's sure worth a shot. I personally would not make the drive gears plastic as that is were the most strain is.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 8:55 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello again everyone. > Bill. > I was told (second hand info.) But form a person who I trust 100%. > > He told me that, Legacy was NO Longer going to make the gears for the > older manual machines. > So as far as I can see it. Its up to us now. If we want parts we will have > to make them our self's now. > > More on this topic latter. > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 09:46:15 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy > Ornamental Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good morning Eric. > > I have been playing around with plastic gearing for the Legacy. But I have > been looking at the other end of the gear linkage. > The drive gears are much smaller tooth design, I see no real reason why > they too can not be made out of plastic's? > In the past, we have had a few people cut out gears for the group on a > laser, out of metal. (but sadly these people no longer have access to the > equipment, do this any more.) > I have DFX files for the gears that I have been making to match up with > Legacy's indexing gears, If you like I can forward those to you, or If you > like I can do some more trial and error and see if I can make these drive > gear first, To see how they work. Its up to you. > I am in the process of making a new attachment for the Legacy, I am > cutting out gears out of Plexiglas and Acrylic for this attachment. So it > really isn't that big of a deal for my to add a 1/4" square in the middle > of the gear, For me the biggest factor is trying to find the correct size > of gear to make the pitches you need. > I use V carve for my programing and then make CRV file into DFX for > cutting on the laser. > Here are two files to see if you can do something with them. If they work > for you, I have no problems sending them to the group. > > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 08:59:11 AM EST, Eric Gantner < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Good Morning, > > I not sure if I should start a new message or add on to this. I think I am > almost done putting my 900 together with a Z-axis carriage. My machine > only came with drive gears F &G, is this something I need to start working > on now or can it wait. I think I can make them once I understand how they > work, I have no background in this sort of thing. What I do have is a is a > laser engraver-cutter, 3D printer, and a > CNC that can mill aluminum. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks! > > Eric Gantner > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:23:20 PM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > > Yeah sounds good Jeff, let us know what you find out. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 6:04 PM Jeff Richmond <[email protected]> wrote: > > I came across some HDPE for a very reasonable price. I was hoping to try > it for gears but it would be CNC cut instead of laser. > > We will see how it goes. > > Jeff from Connecticut > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Tim I was told that the name Derlin was a DuPont trade name. and this > Acetron was the same stuff but made by another name only. If you feel the > Derlin on my split nut, it feels the same as the Acetron, If I get a > chance I will also use the UHMW. It is easer for me to find, (but I > have not priced it $$$ wise in many years.) > > More latter. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 02:30:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Looks like a lot of properties similar to Delrin Curt. > I still think we should try UHMW too, though I want to get some of that > stock you have there. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > - General Info > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Key Properties > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Applications > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Trade Names > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Available Sizes > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Available Colors > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > - Safety Data Sheet > > <https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products> > > Applications > > - Bushings & Bearings > - Conveying / Material Handling Components > - Electrical Components > - Food Products / Packaging Machinery Components > - Gears > - Medical & Diagnostic Equipment Components > - Metal Replacement Applications > - Rollers > - Scientific Instrumentation > > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:01:47 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy > Ornamental Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, And Good morning to all. ;-) > > Mac. Yes the new gears are a heavy 1/4" the old ones were 3/16. > > Jeff. I'm not really sure why they broke? I think it could be the plastic > and metal meshing, but it also could have been the cold temps in my shop? > Due this Question, I made the second gear to try to find out for sure why? > A third possibility could be, the my mounting of the motor and gear > set-up, Perhaps the gears were not set correctly due my my brackets having > to much play in it??? > ALL That I can say for sure is, What I have now, And that I have a lot > more testing to do. > PVC is very hard, and it looks to me at this time the hardness also made > it a little brittle. > I am hoping that this Acrtron GP plastic will hold up? Bye the way. > This is what I found out about this product. > > https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products > > > Have a good day everyone. > > C.A.G. > > > > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 08:00:46 AM EST, Jeff Richmond < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks for the update Curt. > > Was the tooth failure between the two pvc gears or between a steel and pvc > gear? > > Jeff from Connecticut > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2023, at 12:32 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Everyone. > > Sadly the PVC gears that I made last week, started to chip and break. as I > was using my machine last night. > > So this morning, I was able to find a different type of plastic, and I was > able to make a new set of Gears that should hold up to the Legacy. > The material is called Acetron GP. (Its not cheap to buy, but I was told > that it should hold up for my gears that I am making. And it is Laser > friendly, So I bought some today.) > Here are some photos. > Tomorrow I will do some more testing, with both Acetron gears as well as > with my Original Legacy gear that I used for my specks. > > Please let me know what you think? > talk to you all more latter. > > C.A.G. > > > On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 01:16:01 AM EST, Tim Ziegler < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > they might be stackable????? lol. > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:50 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental > Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tim maybe you could go to a pulley system and hang one or more from the > ceiling. > Lol > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond <[email protected]> wrote: > > That’s one way to do it. > > I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel > obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol) > > Jeff from Connecticut > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on > just have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the rest > > A drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what > ever else extras come with the big mill you still would be in front > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond > *Sent:* Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Plastic gears > > > > I have been keeping my eyes out. > > > > Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) > doesn’t typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really) > > > > Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at > 1200 or so pounds. > > > > Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol > > > > Jeff from Connecticut > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Every now and again they come up for sale on one of the really large mills > if you could get one at a good price you would have a set > > And of course have a column making mill too lol > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Thursday, 12 January 2023 7:54 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Plastic gears > > > > Good information and thanks for posting it Bill. > > Just don;t seem to be any interest in actually getting a X 4 gear set. > really to bad. > > I want it just because its available. Not sure I would use it more then to > play but... > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:40 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Legacy sold the set back in the day for $480.00 if they still made them > today it would be double that I bet. > > I got mine from roger phebe the legsacy international sales person back > then he retired but before he left he did a deal with me for lots of > > Legacy parts including enough parts to make up a 4x set and my revo mill, > I’m not sure roger is with us anymore I have not heard from him in a very > long time he use to post here on the group al the time. > > I found a way around the 4x set before I owned them by using a sprockets > and chain I mounted another spindle below the main one > > And connecting them with a 2 to 1 or 3 or 4 to one sprockets > > <image001.png> > > then when you used the 4X gears on your mill it turned them into 8x and > more on the lower spindle > > I don’t have better pics sorry I took these pics years ago and it was part > of a side milling mod I made for milling lager dia and longer work than the > > mill was made to do and template following on the same large work . it was > a way of making large columns and putting round holes and dowls in the ends > I could make however many needed to make one big lone columns. The mod is > here https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html > > The 4x gears are mainly used on very large dia projects but not always if > you’re a crazy legacy nut like me lol > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, 12 January 2023 3:09 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Plastic gears > > > > My Lord!!! That is a complicated set of gears. It would have to come with > a manual just to know how to use it/them. I assume Legacy sold this gear > set? > > This is the only time I have seen them. Do you know what these sold for > new? How did you come by them? > > Thanks for posting them Bill > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:46 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > The 4x gears consist of almost 30 gears and lots of those are double gears > and linkages too involved in the 4X gears I own a set > > Very complicated gear set > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2023 2:49 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Plastic gears > > > > Does anyone have a 4x multiplier set? If so could you post close up pi’s > of the gears set please. > > I have a .50 reduction set that I will post pics of if anyone would like > pics of let me know. > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 10:04 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Me too > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond > *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:49 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Plastic gears > > > > Nice job Curt. I am really interested to see where this goes. > > > > Jeff from Connecticut > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2023, at 7:49 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone. > > I've been playing around with making gears, (to be pacific, A direct drive > for my 200 motor.) > > This is a proto type of sorts. > > I have no idea on how well these gear teeth will hold up? I did use it > today on making a handle for a screw driver. > > and played with this motor hook up and gears for the better part of the > day. > > So far it looks good, but time will tell. > > > > Please let me know what you think? > > talk to you all more latter. > > > > C.A.G. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1865702317.4276528.1673311779412%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > <200 plastic gear2.JPG> > > <200 plastic gears1.JPG> > > <200 plastic gears3.JPG> > > <200 plastic gears4.JPG> > > <Plexi gears.JPG> > > <plexi gears2.JPG> > > -- > You received this 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