Good morning Dan.
Yes this is what I am working for.the Legacy is the fixed point, the jig/table
will be adjustable so I can very different size of the ovals ark/shape, the
size of the oval will be dependent to the router bit/Legacy.The linkage could
be a slot or a bar, pushing or pulling the top as it rotates around the sun
gear, making the oval.Now the template, I need to think on that one. I know
that indexing an Oval/ even spacing on an oval. needs a special indexing plate,
Perhaps a template could surface??? But that's a long way from where I am at,
At this time. But a very nice idea!
NOW "Not" trying to change the subject. What you suggest about the Spirograph
type of designs, Are made by the way of a Geometric chuck, That too. I have
been working on for a while. (and I am very close to finishing that project as
well. but that is a different topic all together. )
Have a GREAT Day, and a Happy New Year.As for me, I'm going out to the shop now
and see if I can dig up some parts to make this linkage for the table.
talk to you, (and all) more latter.
C.A.G.
On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:22:57 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com
<cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the pictures you posted, I'm not sure that gears are necessary at all.
If the center gear were simply a plate with a slotted arm (for adjustability)
secured to it (in a groove?) and if the arm had a pin in the end to engage a
hole in the plate sitting on the drawer slides, it would move the plate back
and forth as the table holding the plate (on its slides) turned. A fixed point
above the plate (the router) would trace an oval whose axes differ by how far
the pin is from center. Look up "Archimedes compass".
I mentioned an idea that popped into my head. It is based upon a template
follower that moves the router frame back and forth on the X axis as the rotary
table rotates the template under a workpiece. This opens up the possibility of
just about any shape the follower can follow. Different sizes could be
generated using the same template by adjusting the arm holding the follower,
just like using the template (and follower) moves the router frame on the Y
axis. An oval template would produce any size oval workpiece of the same
height to length ratio within the range of the table clearance. And it occurs
to me that it's a dumb idea because one can do that same thing with a template
following router bit not even needing the mill! Doh!
So, Curt is on a good path. I'm wondering if by using the planetary gear
system one could produce patterns like the famous sketching toy did. It was
known as Spirograph and operated on a principle very close to what Curt is
trying to do. Producing different patterns might extend to producing gears that
are not round. All kinds of possibilities....but one step at a time.
DanKOoooh look. A shiny object! ,,,,,,
On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:44:28 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Good morning Tim. (Happy New Year to everyone!)
The slides will move back and forth, the movement will be more to one side then
the other, but the answers is Yes, there will be some movement in both
directions.I am hoping that the drawer slides will work for me? The basic
design that I am basing my jig on, used dovetails for its movement. This is all
trial and error time for me. I feel pretty sure that its going to work,
but...? We will have to wait and see. Wish me luck. ;-)
More latter.C.A.G.
On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 07:17:26 AM EST, Tim Ziegler
<timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Going to be interesting for sure. I'm looking forward to your progress on this
one too. Does it need slides going both directions though?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 9:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Dan.
Lets not put the cart before the horse (so to speak.) At this time ONE is all
that I am planning to make.But having said that, If you or any of the LOM group
wants to try to make one after me, I would be all to glad to give them any help
that I can.The ONLY thing that I am running into a problem with at this time,
is the adjustable linkage for the planet gear.I want to make it adjustable, but
I'm limited to space and How adjustable it needs to be? I could use a cam/lever
to make one-three oval sizes, at this time. but I am not sure how I want to
make it? If you or anyone has any ideas, I would be grateful for any advice.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:45:51 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com
<cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I know about the "other" materials for peg board. The object of my game
is to use as much as I can from what's laying around, and that includes the
paint I rarely use!
Curt, you're on to something there! It seems very workable! And I would want
mine to be infinitely adjustable for the range it can handle. You're making
more than one, right? :)DanK
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 9:37:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
yup very interesting stuff for sure.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone.
Thank you Ed.
This Group was formed to help Legacy users achieve as much as we can, by the
use of sharing information and ideas.
This Oval jig is just one of the ideas that I want to explore.Here are some
photo's of what I have up to date.
This is what I have now.Please let me explain what is happening here. (NO Video
yet.)the Rotary table turns with the Legacy headstock. My table has avacuum
port in the center, Its not being used at this time, So I have a 1/4" rod
running threw the vacuum hole at this time.The idea here is called a Planetary
gear set.The center gear is the Sun gear, and the other is a planetary gear. it
moves around the sun gear, (like the planets do around our sun in this solar
system.) What is a little confusing here is the table turns by the sun gear
isheld in place by the use of the 1/4" rod .The planetary gear will have a rod
on it to push or pull the table as it moves aroundthe table. Making the Oval.I
am using 14" drawer slides to hold the top on this jig.I do not have a cam/arm
to adjust the ovals size made as yet. but everything worksas designed so
far.Here is a video that shows what I am looking to
do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k
Any and all suggestion or comments are welcome.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:23:42 AM EST, <edn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Curt,
You inspire me !
Thank you !
Ed Trevillian
edn...@gmail.com
Cell 704-776-5591
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 9:42 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New Year ahead!
This is an idea I've had for several years but have never taken the time to
engineer the Archimedes compass mechanism. I had a wooden "Bridgeport" router
mill that it was to be it's first implementation, but I gave up that home built
machine in the move to IN. Now it will be interesting to see how you, Curt,
implement this fabulous process.
I'm currently building a storage "wall" for the REVO to store all it's parts, a
framed peg board panel secured to the back of the REVO stand. It will be two
sided and have a box of boxes (drawers) for which the REVO will cut the finger
joints.
Have stalled out on the ball and nested bowl turner temporarily. ADHD kicked
in and some shop housekeeping (oh LOOK! a shiny object) and now Curt's
distraction. Life is hard. But I'm eternally grateful for the privileges and
opportunities we still have!
Happy New Year everyone!
Hoo boi. An idea just popped into my head. Must go write it down before I
forget!
DanK
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 10:37:33 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
Hey Curt
Super excited to see what you come up with with your new toy. should be an
exciting time.
I will have to watch those videos tomorrow. Thanks for sharing this.
I have a bunch of wood projects going but nothing LOM related.
though I did round a couple spindles last night with my new spoil board bit.
Works awesome.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 8:10 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone.
Just a short note to say hello and wish you all a Very Happy New years.
Hopefully 2024 will be a better year for all.
Dose anyone have any "Pet" Projects coming up, that they would like to share?
I have a number of them that I will share as soon as they are completed. And
ONE that is in the works now.
I can and will go into details on this project if anyone is interested?
I found this Video of what One person did, I know that the same thing can be
done on the Legacy, So last week I started on my version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cw6T2ZbYJuM
and how it could have been done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc
If all goes well, I should have it done Early Next year. ;-)
Lets hear what you think?
talk to you all more latter.
have a good night. and a Happy New Year.
C.A.G.
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