Yeah all as clear as mud here lol. I have an oval maker I will have to study that a bit which runs on the dovetails Curt mentioned. this could get super exciting for sure.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 9:22 AM cdkr...@gmail.com <cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Given the pictures you posted, I'm not sure that gears are necessary at > all. If the center gear were simply a plate with a slotted arm (for > adjustability) secured to it (in a groove?) and if the arm had a pin in the > end to engage a hole in the plate sitting on the drawer slides, it would > move the plate back and forth as the table holding the plate (on its > slides) turned. A fixed point above the plate (the router) would trace an > oval whose axes differ by how far the pin is from center. Look up > "Archimedes compass". > > I mentioned an idea that popped into my head. It is based upon a template > follower that moves the router frame back and forth on the X axis as the > rotary table rotates the template under a workpiece. This opens up the > possibility of just about any shape the follower can follow. Different > sizes could be generated using the same template by adjusting the arm > holding the follower, just like using the template (and follower) moves the > router frame on the Y axis. An oval template would produce any size oval > workpiece of the same height to length ratio within the range of the table > clearance. And it occurs to me that it's a dumb idea because one can do > that same thing with a template following router bit not even needing the > mill! Doh! > > So, Curt is on a good path. I'm wondering if by using the planetary gear > system one could produce patterns like the famous sketching toy did. It was > known as Spirograph and operated on a principle very close to what Curt is > trying to do. Producing different patterns might extend to producing gears > that are not round. All kinds of possibilities....but one step at a time. > > > DanK > Ooooh look. A shiny object! ,,,,,, > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:44:28 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > >> Good morning Tim. (Happy New Year to everyone!) >> >> The slides will move back and forth, the movement will be more to one >> side then the other, but the answers is Yes, there will be some movement in >> both directions. >> I am hoping that the drawer slides will work for me? The basic design >> that I am basing my jig on, used dovetails for its movement. >> This is all trial and error time for me. I feel pretty sure that its >> going to work, but...? We will have to wait and see. >> Wish me luck. ;-) >> >> More latter. >> C.A.G. >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 07:17:26 AM EST, Tim Ziegler < >> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Going to be interesting for sure. I'm looking forward to your progress on >> this one too. >> Does it need slides going both directions though? >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 9:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Dan. >> >> Lets not put the cart before the horse (so to speak.) At this time ONE >> is all that I am planning to make. >> But having said that, If you or any of the LOM group wants to try to make >> one after me, I would be all to glad to give them any help that I can. >> The ONLY thing that I am running into a problem with at this time, is the >> adjustable linkage for the planet gear. >> I want to make it adjustable, but I'm limited to space and How adjustable >> it needs to be? I could use a cam/lever to make one-three oval sizes, at >> this time. but I am not sure how I want to make it? >> If you or anyone has any ideas, I would be grateful for any advice. >> >> C.A.G.[image: Inline image] >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:45:51 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com < >> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, I know about the "other" materials for peg board. The object of my >> game is to use as much as I can from what's laying around, and that >> includes the paint I rarely use! >> >> Curt, you're on to something there! It seems very workable! And I would >> want mine to be infinitely adjustable for the range it can handle. You're >> making more than one, right? :) >> DanK >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 9:37:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: >> >> yup very interesting stuff for sure. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone. >> >> Thank you Ed. >> >> This Group was formed to help Legacy users achieve as much as we can, >> by the use of sharing information and ideas. >> >> This Oval jig is just one of the ideas that I want to explore. >> Here are some photo's of what I have up to date. >> >> This is what I have now. >> Please let me explain what is happening here. (NO Video yet.) >> the Rotary table turns with the Legacy headstock. My table has a >> vacuum port in the center, Its not being used at this time, So I have a >> 1/4" rod running threw the vacuum hole at this time. >> The idea here is called a Planetary gear set. >> The center gear is the Sun gear, and the other is a planetary gear. >> it moves around the sun gear, (like the planets do around our sun in this >> solar system.) What is a little confusing here is the table turns by the >> sun gear is >> held in place by the use of the 1/4" rod . >> The planetary gear will have a rod on it to push or pull the table as it >> moves around >> the table. Making the Oval. >> I am using 14" drawer slides to hold the top on this jig. >> I do not have a cam/arm to adjust the ovals size made as yet. but >> everything works >> as designed so far. >> Here is a video that shows what I am looking to do. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k >> >> Any and all suggestion or comments are welcome. >> >> C.A.G. >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:23:42 AM EST, <edn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Curt, >> >> You inspire me ! >> >> Thank you ! >> >> >> >> *Ed Trevillian* >> >> edn...@gmail.com >> >> Cell 704-776-5591 >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2023 9:42 AM >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: New Year ahead! >> >> >> >> This is an idea I've had for several years but have never taken the time >> to engineer the Archimedes compass mechanism. I had a wooden "Bridgeport" >> router mill that it was to be it's first implementation, but I gave up that >> home built machine in the move to IN. Now it will be interesting to see >> how you, Curt, implement this fabulous process. >> >> >> >> I'm currently building a storage "wall" for the REVO to store all it's >> parts, a framed peg board panel secured to the back of the REVO stand. It >> will be two sided and have a box of boxes (drawers) for which the REVO will >> cut the finger joints. >> >> Have stalled out on the ball and nested bowl turner temporarily. ADHD >> kicked in and some shop housekeeping (oh LOOK! a shiny object) and now >> Curt's distraction. Life is hard. But I'm eternally grateful for the >> privileges and opportunities we still have! >> >> >> >> Happy New Year everyone! >> >> >> >> Hoo boi. An idea just popped into my head. Must go write it down >> before I forget! >> >> DanK >> >> >> >> On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 10:37:33 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: >> >> Hey Curt >> >> >> >> Super excited to see what you come up with with your new toy. should be >> an exciting time. >> >> I will have to watch those videos tomorrow. Thanks for sharing this. >> >> >> >> I have a bunch of wood projects going but nothing LOM related. >> >> though I did round a couple spindles last night with my new spoil board >> bit. >> >> Works awesome. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 8:10 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone. >> >> >> >> Just a short note to say hello and wish you all a Very Happy New years. >> >> Hopefully 2024 will be a better year for all. >> >> >> >> Dose anyone have any "Pet" Projects coming up, that they would like to >> share? >> >> I have a number of them that I will share as soon as they are completed. >> And ONE that is in the works now. >> >> I can and will go into details on this project if anyone is interested? >> >> I found this Video of what One person did, I know that the same thing can >> be done on the Legacy, So last week I started on my version. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs >> >> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cw6T2ZbYJuM >> 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