Yeah good luck and lets get this mystery solved and productive. I am looking forward to it.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 10:00 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Good morning Dan. > > Yes this is what I am working for. > the Legacy is the fixed point, the jig/table will be adjustable so I can > very different size of the ovals ark/shape, the size of the oval will be > dependent to the router bit/Legacy. > The linkage could be a slot or a bar, pushing or pulling the top as it > rotates around the sun gear, making the oval. > Now the template, I need to think on that one. I know that indexing an > Oval/ even spacing on an oval. needs a > special indexing plate, Perhaps a template could surface??? But that's a > long way from where I am at, At this time. But a very nice idea! > > NOW "Not" trying to change the subject. What you suggest about the > Spirograph type of designs, Are made by the way of a Geometric chuck, That > too. I have been working on for a while. (and I am very close to finishing > that project as well. but that is a different topic all together. ) > > Have a GREAT Day, and a Happy New Year. > As for me, I'm going out to the shop now and see if I can dig up some > parts to make this linkage for the table. > > talk to you, (and all) more latter. > > C.A.G. > > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:22:57 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com < > cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Given the pictures you posted, I'm not sure that gears are necessary at > all. If the center gear were simply a plate with a slotted arm (for > adjustability) secured to it (in a groove?) and if the arm had a pin in the > end to engage a hole in the plate sitting on the drawer slides, it would > move the plate back and forth as the table holding the plate (on its > slides) turned. A fixed point above the plate (the router) would trace an > oval whose axes differ by how far the pin is from center. Look up > "Archimedes compass". > > I mentioned an idea that popped into my head. It is based upon a template > follower that moves the router frame back and forth on the X axis as the > rotary table rotates the template under a workpiece. This opens up the > possibility of just about any shape the follower can follow. Different > sizes could be generated using the same template by adjusting the arm > holding the follower, just like using the template (and follower) moves the > router frame on the Y axis. An oval template would produce any size oval > workpiece of the same height to length ratio within the range of the table > clearance. And it occurs to me that it's a dumb idea because one can do > that same thing with a template following router bit not even needing the > mill! Doh! > > So, Curt is on a good path. I'm wondering if by using the planetary gear > system one could produce patterns like the famous sketching toy did. It was > known as Spirograph and operated on a principle very close to what Curt is > trying to do. Producing different patterns might extend to producing gears > that are not round. All kinds of possibilities....but one step at a time. > > > DanK > Ooooh look. A shiny object! ,,,,,, > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:44:28 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > > Good morning Tim. (Happy New Year to everyone!) > > The slides will move back and forth, the movement will be more to one side > then the other, but the answers is Yes, there will be some movement in both > directions. > I am hoping that the drawer slides will work for me? The basic design that > I am basing my jig on, used dovetails for its movement. > This is all trial and error time for me. I feel pretty sure that its > going to work, but...? We will have to wait and see. > Wish me luck. ;-) > > More latter. > C.A.G. > > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 07:17:26 AM EST, Tim Ziegler < > timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Going to be interesting for sure. I'm looking forward to your progress on > this one too. > Does it need slides going both directions though? > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 9:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Dan. > > Lets not put the cart before the horse (so to speak.) At this time ONE is > all that I am planning to make. > But having said that, If you or any of the LOM group wants to try to make > one after me, I would be all to glad to give them any help that I can. > The ONLY thing that I am running into a problem with at this time, is the > adjustable linkage for the planet gear. > I want to make it adjustable, but I'm limited to space and How adjustable > it needs to be? I could use a cam/lever to make one-three oval sizes, at > this time. but I am not sure how I want to make it? > If you or anyone has any ideas, I would be grateful for any advice. > > C.A.G.[image: Inline image] > > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:45:51 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com < > cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, I know about the "other" materials for peg board. The object of my > game is to use as much as I can from what's laying around, and that > includes the paint I rarely use! > > Curt, you're on to something there! It seems very workable! And I would > want mine to be infinitely adjustable for the range it can handle. You're > making more than one, right? :) > DanK > > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 9:37:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: > > yup very interesting stuff for sure. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > > Thank you Ed. > > This Group was formed to help Legacy users achieve as much as we can, > by the use of sharing information and ideas. > > This Oval jig is just one of the ideas that I want to explore. > Here are some photo's of what I have up to date. > > This is what I have now. > Please let me explain what is happening here. (NO Video yet.) > the Rotary table turns with the Legacy headstock. My table has a > vacuum port in the center, Its not being used at this time, So I have a > 1/4" rod running threw the vacuum hole at this time. > The idea here is called a Planetary gear set. > The center gear is the Sun gear, and the other is a planetary gear. > it moves around the sun gear, (like the planets do around our sun in this > solar system.) What is a little confusing here is the table turns by the > sun gear is > held in place by the use of the 1/4" rod . > The planetary gear will have a rod on it to push or pull the table as it > moves around > the table. Making the Oval. > I am using 14" drawer slides to hold the top on this jig. > I do not have a cam/arm to adjust the ovals size made as yet. but > everything works > as designed so far. > Here is a video that shows what I am looking to do. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k > > Any and all suggestion or comments are welcome. > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 10:23:42 AM EST, <edn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Curt, > > You inspire me ! > > Thank you ! > > > > *Ed Trevillian* > > edn...@gmail.com > > Cell 704-776-5591 > > > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On > Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2023 9:42 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: New Year ahead! > > > > This is an idea I've had for several years but have never taken the time > to engineer the Archimedes compass mechanism. I had a wooden "Bridgeport" > router mill that it was to be it's first implementation, but I gave up that > home built machine in the move to IN. Now it will be interesting to see > how you, Curt, implement this fabulous process. > > > > I'm currently building a storage "wall" for the REVO to store all it's > parts, a framed peg board panel secured to the back of the REVO stand. It > will be two sided and have a box of boxes (drawers) for which the REVO will > cut the finger joints. > > Have stalled out on the ball and nested bowl turner temporarily. ADHD > kicked in and some shop housekeeping (oh LOOK! a shiny object) and now > Curt's distraction. Life is hard. But I'm eternally grateful for the > privileges and opportunities we still have! > > > > Happy New Year everyone! > > > > Hoo boi. An idea just popped into my head. Must go write it down before > I forget! > > DanK > > > > On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 10:37:33 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Hey Curt > > > > Super excited to see what you come up with with your new toy. should be an > exciting time. > > I will have to watch those videos tomorrow. Thanks for sharing this. > > > > I have a bunch of wood projects going but nothing LOM related. > > though I did round a couple spindles last night with my new spoil board > bit. > > Works awesome. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 8:10 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > > > > Just a short note to say hello and wish you all a Very Happy New years. > > Hopefully 2024 will be a better year for all. > > > > Dose anyone have any "Pet" Projects coming up, that they would like to > share? > > I have a number of them that I will share as soon as they are completed. > And ONE that is in the works now. > > I can and will go into details on this project if anyone is interested? > > I found this Video of what One person did, I know that the same thing can > be done on the Legacy, So last week I started on my version. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs > > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cw6T2ZbYJuM > > and how it could have been done. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc > > > > If all goes well, I should have it done Early Next year. ;-) > > > > Lets hear what you think? > > > > talk to you all more latter. > > have a good night. and a Happy New Year. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1640233350.3834987.1703988637732%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1640233350.3834987.1703988637732%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to 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