Cathy, Yes, I have found that and changed a few things. Sometimes I change something to see what it will do but end up changing it back.
The quoted name is a great method and I like that it can be specified in reports. I will change to doing the names that way! I have ended up using suffixes for things like "Van Den" because it keeps the latter part of the surname together and I have families whose prefix changes and then I can't find them in the index. I have tried to follow the same conventions I see other researchers using from the same countries or locations using. Yes, I have families where I put the titles: Reverend, Doctor, Deacon... in the prefix. Many times these are occupations but in some cases, especially older records, they were like part of the name. In the case of a Catholic priest or monk, it is good to have it in the name... it saves wasting a lot of time searching for wives and children!! I have not seen Legacy show a way to source these titles. That would be very nice. As far as aka's I have to keep them in front of me or I lose track of them and miss finding people in the records I am searching. Because of this I have developed an elaborate system of tracking them. I am open to any suggestions to improve this system. I source each different name listed under aka as well as the main name, for example, below is all the same person, each name is sourced the same, then the 'source detail' for the event tells the date that version of the name is used: Anthonius Anthonii, Gendalim 5, 1614 Anna Anthonius Bremen, Gendalim 5, 1610 Maria Thoenis Kohflech, Gendalim 5, 1617 witness Thonis Op Gen, Gendalim 5, 1607 Henricus 1610 Maria, tells that in 1610 Anthonius Bemen baptized a daughter Maria under that name. Maria herself is listed under Mergen Kohfleg because it was the most common usage for her in the records. She has 5 other aliases noted and sourced. 1607 Henricus, tells that in 1607 Thonis Op Gen (Brement) baptized a son Henricus under that name. Henricus himself is listed under the surname most common for him: Coevliege with 9 other versions of the name noted and sourced for him. Inside the source detail for the event, I right click and copy from the source: Baptism Heerlen = 30-05-1610 Baptized child Maria Bremen Father of the child Thonis Bremen Mother of the child Claer N. Sponsor Anna Opheven V Sponsor Johan Hartz Baptism Heerlen = 25-02-1607 Baptized child Henricus Op Gen Father of the child Thonis Op Gen Mother of the child Clara N. Sponsor Frederich Schaesberch V Sponsor Gert Mutters By doing this the information is always at my fingertips and I can go back and see the specific information any time I want. Then under comments, I try to explain who each of the sponsors are and what their relationship to the family is. However, I also do aliases another way because some names have many variations. One researcher counted 150 spellings for the surname above. Because of this records are harder to identify for the family. Legacy only displays two of the aliases, so to display a larger variation in surname spellings, in aliases: First name: Catharina, Trincken, Triniken, Trin, Tryn, Trijntije Surname: Bawr, Bawrs, Bours, Bour, Boors, Baurs, Baars, Bahrs, Bohrs, Baers, With that as my first displayed name, I can add a second with less proven association to the family: Catharina.... Boerman?, Borman?, Bohrman?, Boormans, Then I can source uses of that name and show under "item details" the excerpts from records that indicate a possible relationship to my family. When I first started doing genealogy I had no clue what complications would arise from names! This family above has ten children, each born under a surname! Although it makes things very interesting, it also makes things difficult. Unfortunately, I run such naming difficulties in various forms in many countries that I search. Netherlands seems to take the lead although I find their multliple nicknames very charming. The patronymics in Wales and Denmark are hard too. Since Legacy will not let me add siblings without adding a father I have used various names for that: Unknown, Unbekannt, Onbekend; and Forefather, Vorfahren, Stamvater... and often I add a location; Vorfahren Kerkrade "surname". I used the different languages to group my families together that are related rather than use just English and have more difficulty finding people in the index. This allows me to add siblings without knowing the name of their father. I don't know if there is some other method for doing this? Thanks for your help and suggestions! Carol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] another question ... names Hi Carol, I trust you've found the settings in Options > Customise to solve many of your problems. I can't really comment on how to handle different naming conventions. European users may be able to give you advantages and disadvantages of using the prefixes and suffixes as you are. I suspect the suffix works but I think the prefix is to the whole name not the surname and meant for things like Dr, Professor, Reverend - which I don't enter as the person when born had none of these titles. To show the name the person actually went by, use the "quoted name" eg my mother is entered as Edith Beryl Joyce "Joyce" In the report options on the Format tab, you can choose to use Quoted Name in narrative - it is then picked up wherever the "first name" would otherwise be used. You can also choose to remove the quoted name when the full name is printed. Aliases belong in the AKA. Surname variations are handled differently by different people. Some put them all in the AKAs. Some just note them in the source and/or notes. There remain problems with the Legacy options for names as Legacy becomes more and more international as various language versions are released. This is increasing the pressure to add more options. Cathy At 08:06 AM 25/09/2007, you wrote: >Hello again, > >I have various difficult to handle personal and surnames: > >Mc, Mac and La surnames where the next letter is >capitalized without a space between: Legacy will >not let me do this: McVey, LaDuke… > >Sephardic/Spanish surnames where the mother’s >surname is listed after the father’s: Pardo >Pereira, Roquet Viamonde, Mendes Monsanto I have >been filing the mother’s (second) surname under >“suffix” with a comma between to set it off. > >Von, Van, Von de, Van de, Ahn de, De la, >prefixes that are not actually part of the >surname but are actually part of the surname… I >have, so far, put these in “prefix” so that the >name will go under the main name. > >German first names where there is a string of >four to six first names…. How to differentiate >between the many first names and the actual name the person went by? > >Then I have a great many Aliases and variations >in surname spellings… I have finally changed the >family view to show aliases so that I will be >less likely to create duplicate records under >different names for the same person! If anyone >has any methods that work for these, I’d love to know. > >Thanks, >Carol Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1027 - Release Date: 9/24/2007 11:27 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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