Dennis (or anyone else that wants to answer):
The new filing system described in my previous e-mail is organized by
grandparents and their ancestors. What family line would I file
documents for descendants of the grandparents (i.e. my and my
husband's parents, ourselves, our kids and everyone else of this
generation)? Would the husband's ancestor line determine it (i.e.
Vallevieni for my husband and I and our kids since we are all named
Vallevieni) or what about using the 0-999 group for the descendants?
Thanks again.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 01:51 PM 12/25/2008, you wrote:
With a little help from Dennis K. I was able to put my MRIN's in the
Marriage User ID fields and it took a split second. That part
done. I also have read 'ominous' threats of something going
seriously wrong with the present arrangement of things but have
never experienced it. I finally decided to make a backup
anyway. First, I would print out the Marriage List on a regular
basis as a pdf in case I ever needed the numbers. Although, putting
them back one at a time would be a real nasty job. Then I put them
into the User ID fields one at a time (it took hours, and again, any
needed restoration would be a pain) then Dennis K. showed me how to
get them into the Marriage User ID fields.
Same pain if it ever came to a need to restore to the MRIN fields.
Sherry, at Legacy, has been the consistent bearer of ominous
threats, so I think Legacy might think of making a way of backing up
and restoring MRIN's if such a thing was ever needed.
I don't know if you can renumber a tagged list of MRIN's (still
sticking to my idea here of assigning a range of numbers to each
grandparent) - I don't see a way of doing that in Legacy. If you
renumber MRIN's as-you-go you can still have a range of numbers for
each grandparent and use the next available in that range. That
will give you a quick view in the MRIN field of which grandparent
line you're working in, and you should be able to print a list of
all MRIN's that would automatically be divided by lines. The one
'glitch' to this is that there will be all the numbers that haven't
been renumbered yet that appear to be in the range of one
grandparent or another when in actual fact they're not. Unless you
start your renumbering higher outside the range of present MRIN's.
For instance, in my father's line, the MRIN's that have documents
connected is somewhere around 650. My mother's line starts at
5000. So I know if I see MRIN 830 it's not connected to my Source
Library in any way and I also don't know which side of the family it
is (by number). I haven't found this to be a problem though. It
depends how much importance you place on that visual cue.
Show snoveled, back to laundry...
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JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog
Cathy Vallevieni wrote:
JL:
Thank you. I previously read an on-line document describing your
system (probably something you wrote). I've been afraid to change
all the MRINs but doing it as I come across a family that has
documents feels easier. This still doesn't solve the problem that
occurs if the MRINs get screwed up or have to be changed (as has
been ominously discussed several times in the past). Although, I
don't think I've heard of anyone experiencing that. This is why I
decided to use the User ID field which hopefully will never need to
be changed for any maintenance, corruption or other issue.
In response to your previous response . . . Yep, it's Christmas,
and shoveling out your car doesn't sound like the best way to spend it.
We have nurses and police in our family who are working today so
did our Christmas yesterday. Today has actually been a great day
without interruptions (husband is glued to the "Law and Order"
marathon on TV) to work on genealogy but we are leaving soon to go
to the movies/dinner with friends so I'll grudgingly have to tear
myself away from the computer.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 12:55 PM 12/25/2008, you wrote:
Cathy V.,
It's not necessary to use the User ID field at all to accomplish a
list and a 'quick view'. I was so focused by your focus, I missed
the bigger picture. I sort my MRIN's by father's side and
mother's side, but the same principals would apply to splitting by
4 grandparents. I use MRIN 1-4999 for my father's side although
that's only theoretical. In practice the MRIN's presently in use
(ie. with related documents) go up to about 650. My mother's side
starts at 5000. At a glance I can see what side of the family I'm on.
For four grandparents it could work something like this:
1-1999 grandparent 1
2000-3999 grandparent 2
4000-5999 grandparent 3
6000-7999 grandparent 4
I've only renumbered the MRIN's I have documents for and do that
as I go, not ahead of time. That means I ignore anything where
the numbers I see are outside where I know my Source Library has gotten to.
An alternate place to put MRIN's for backup is in the Marriage
User ID fields.
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JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog
JLB wrote:
Not really. Besides shoveling my car out of a snowbank, my
schedule's free today. Oh, right, it's Christmas.
I use the MRIN filing system myself so I'm interested in the
extra dimension you're adding to it. As far as numbering, you
could split your grandparent's lines by number and be able to
identify them that way. Say MRIN's starting with 1, 2, 3 or
4. Depending how far you are into it with your related documents
and how much trouble it would be to 'start over'.
Dennis K signed his email with 'Legacy Tools' so I assume that's
public info. There's something there that would help you with at
least one aspect of what you're trying to do.
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JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog
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