Jerry,

why not include the county name in the location as in your case.

The more data included in the Master Locations makes it easier to combine.

Why add data to a notes field the global locations, which have to be edited
later manualy. Perhaps later on hundreds.

I agree that we have a problem.
At the moment we only have eighter the Master List Location or the Address
Window.

In my opinion that's that's the problem.

At the moment we have to add for every exact event the global location address
as a seperate "Master List Location".
This would mean at the moment in my case for the same "city" over 10 Master List
Locations.

In my case I have one Master List Location and 10 Address Locations.

To make it perhaps easier to understand look at it this way.

An example, perhaps not the best ;-), but due to the size of the city and it's
multinationl status.

A family lives in eg. L.A., Cal., ,USA for over fifty years.
They have eg. 5 children, two nationalities, 10 grandchildren, 20 grandchildren
and XX greatgrandchildren.

This means perhaps hundreds of Master List loccations.

Instead we could have one Master location, L.A., and hundreds of Address
Locations.

Using the suggested we could reduce the size of the Family File.
As the result depends on the changes on the side of Legacy and in the way the
Users work it's difficult to say something about the result.

Perhaps something to think about.


Bernhard


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

I understand the historical part, but some of us prefer to use the NOTE field to
explain when there are differences in jurisdictions or what a
location was called.   Afterall, as someone said recently, the latitude
and longitude does not change and we like to use the mapping system and tie a
particular location into every person referenced for that spot on the map.  So,
even though I generally always like to include the COUNTY
-- in your example, I would not put the county in the location.   I
would leave the COUNTY place marker empty between commas, as follows:

Woodstock, , Connecticut, USA

and have the appropriate note attached to that location to explain when it was a
part of Windham County and when it was a part of Suffolk
County.   That is just a personal preference to keep from having
hundreds or quite literally even thousands of extra locations in the database
(ex: Upper Canada, Canada West, British America, Massachusetts Bay Colony - you
could go on and on and create even thousands of extra places, if you take that
to the extreme).  So, I'm not saying you are wrong in listing such locations
separately, just my reason for doing otherwise.

Jerry Boor / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 11/16/2011 07:39 PM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
> Hey Tony,
>
> I wish people would disagree with me more often - we all can learn from each
other.
>
> However, understanding the location at the time of the event is crucial to
research success. Woodstock, Connecticut has always had the same
latitude/longitude. Today it resides in Windham County. If you look for records
in Woodstock, Windham County for an ancestor that lived in Woodstock in 1720,
you won't find what you are looking for because at that time it resided in
Suffolk County, Massachusetts. If I were to record the person's birth as 1720 in
Woodstock, Windham County, Connecticut, it would be false - the place simply did
not exist then. My recommendation then is to record the location as it existed
at the time of the event AND in the event's notes, record the name of the place
as it exists today to cross-reference each other.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:10 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations
>
> Paula wants me to change the thread title, so here goes.
>
> Hi, Geoff
>
> I have to disagree with your statement that "it's the location at the time of
the event that is important not the location as it is [or isn't] now."
>
> Surely the whole point is that these two locations are the same location.  The
names may have changed, the old location may now be in the middle of a motorway,
under a reservoir or have fallen off a crumbling cliff into the ocean.  However,
where it was is where it is.
> The latitude and longitude are still there.
>
> Researching people is also about researching locations.  Where they lived is
important.  Where they lived often determined how they lived.
> Sometimes reaearching the locations highlights problems.  I have a grand uncle
and his wife who moved to Canada.  His granddaughter contacted me and told me
that he told he that "he married his childhood sweetheart".
>    Fine, until you include location details.  She was born and lived about 25
miles South of the wide part of the Thames Estuary.  He was born and lived about
the same distance North.  There is no obvious way from one place to the other in
a time when travel wan't as easy as it is today.
>
> My research shows that they didn't meet until they both moved to a third
location.  So what is wrong?  Something doesn't add up.  Is the childhood
sweetheart just a family story?  Do I have the wrong wife?
> The wrong grand uncle? Did they both travel to the coast and meet on holiday?
Without knowing the locations, I wouldn't know there was an issue.  It's on my
to-do list.
>
> Why do I prefer jpegs over PDF's?  Partly because I don't like any of the PDF
readers and I can't afford (or be bothered) to buy a PDF editor.
>    Partly because I can use photoshop to make poor-quality jpeg images more
readable. Nothing really profound.  Just a personal preference.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony
>
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