John,

Please see below,


From: John Magyari
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields

Thanks for everyone's ideas.
Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions

I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4.  Having same number of 
fields helps with sorting.
So you believe in having inaccurate records in your file, merely to fit 
artificial American situations?


Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX.  Then if 
entered with less fields specify which fields to become null.
ie. MaxPositions = 5,  LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAX
ie For Me for Poland
city, administration, county, state, country (1,2,3,4,5)
If less fields entered enter Nulls
city, county, state, country (Null 1 field - admin)
city, state, country (Null other 2 fields -admin, county)
city, state (Null other 3 fields)
state (Null other 4 fields)


Absolutely *wrong* This gives no consideration whatsoever to the accurate 
location as determined by the in country in which the location is placed. This 
will perpetuate, what has recently been a decreasing trend, of putting square 
pegs into round holes. Perhaps America should change its way of recording 
locations?

I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with fewer 
positions to 4 position system.

John, you, of course, can do as you wish, but please do not even hint at 
forcing your misconceptions onto the rest of us.

john







On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
  John,
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  By all means use the American four field standard for American locations, but 
for other countries use their own formats, normally the way in which they are 
written.
  Â
  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  Â
  Â
  From: John Magyari
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields
  Â
  Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS
  City, County, State, Country

  How do others handle European Countries?

  For example I have a village in Poland Area

  1900's part of Austria Hungary

  Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS
  Lipowiec, Sanok District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary

  Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS
  Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland

  Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5 FIELDS
  City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY
  Lipowiec, Dukla Gmina, Krosno County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, Poland

  and since 2012 *****5 Fields
  Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, Poland

  When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update those with 
4 Fields?

  With some having 4 some having 5 it's also harder sorting and then viewing 
similar towns over time periods.

  thanks,
  john magyari





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