In some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the couple had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one) prior to a decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was or was not allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to occur (either by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both).
*AND in some areas in the early 1800's it was OK to get a woman pregnant before a marriage to "be sure" she would not be barren especially if there was"farm land" to be inherited. * On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Lee Bruch <[email protected]> wrote: > It’s not just an issue with 21st century.**** > > In the 17th and 18th century (maybe at other times too) in some areas of > what is now called Germany there were various sanctioned traditions of > having children outside of marriage. (Some of these were called “farm > marriages”).**** > > In some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man > and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the couple > had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one) prior to a > decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was or was not > allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to occur (either > by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both).**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Larry Lee [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:24 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8**** > > ** ** > > John, etal,**** > > ** ** > > I have seen this discussion several times in the past and presented my > thoughts to the compendium. I favor being able to assign the proper titles > in the labels in Family View. **** > > ** ** > > I dislike having to make my data 'fit' the software! I also prefer not to > put minutiae in my notes for things the program should accommodate. **** > > ** ** > > So, I agree. Relationship window is more correct. Allowing the use of > relationship titles, as a marriage option, would enable the user to keep > their data as they prefer. **** > > ** ** > > Although I am 'old school' I realize we have moved into the 21st century > and need to be able to use today's terminology within Legacy. **** > > > **** > > Larry Lee**** > > [email protected]**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, John Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:* > *** > > Why not simply rename the "Marriage Indormation Window" to call it the > "Relationship Information Window"? > > John Zimmerman > Mesa, AZ > > Sent from my iPhone 5**** > > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Ronald Bernier <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Just curious - how is Millennia confusing newbies? Maybe Millennia > could take a cue from Heredis and call the term to partner. Of course, > this would satisfy some and have others up in arms. > > > > The only other option is for those who are not happy with the program to > consider writing their own program. Then, they could have the exact > terminology they want and not try to force a change for those who are > satisfied with the status quo. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Fry" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 2013/06/18 16:33, Sherry/Support wrote: > >> > >>> It's incorrect to separate "never married" and "had no children" > >>> > >>> When a person has a child, a relationship is established with another > person - a > >>> "marriage" is created whether or not the couple was actually married. > It takes > >>> two to make a child (even if one of them is an anonymous sperm donor!) > and both > >>> parents need to be shown. > >>> > >>> On the "marriage" screen, you can indicate that the couple never > married and set > >>> the Status to "Unmarried" or another choice. > >>> > >>> But there must be a relationship with another person to create a child. > >>> > >>> Therefore it would be incorrect to say "this person never married" if > there was > >>> a child because a relationship has to be established in Legacy to > create that > >>> child..... > >>> > >>> There is no 100% certain way to know if a person never had any > children unless > >>> he or she died before puberty.... I'm sure all of us have at least one > "hidden" > >>> marriage or child that was never acknowledged > >> > >> Ain't English a funny language :-) Methinks it's time for Millennium to > sort > >> their terminology out and stop confusing newbies. > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Mike Fry > >> Johannesburg (g) > >> > >> > >> **** > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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