I'll stick with typing. I've been doing it since 1973 and my fingers still
remember where the keys are even if I don't.
I don't plan on using Windows 8/8.1 unless I have to get a new computer.
I still type over 120 wpm. On an Android, maybe 5 wpm. On my Android (which I
hate), you have to keep touching to get it to cooperate.
After touch screen, they'll have a remote so you don't have to use your
fingers. Or you can dance in front of the monitor, pick your nose, or give it
the finger and it will know what you want to do. Welcome to the new maid. You
can yell at the monitor and it will get you something to eat, clean the house,
take the dog for a walk, make coffee, and even write you a check.
I'd like to write a story about my ancestors and how they would live in today's
world. I think it would be interesting, comical, and a whole lot of swear
words used ("You want me to do what with this thing!").
I tried to introduce my father to an Excel spreadsheet and his reply was "I've
been doing it by hand for years so why should I change now?"
A quote from the movie "Ghost Story": "Change is change for the worst." The
reply from Fred Astaire was: "Spoken like a true lawyer."
And this is my "senior" moment for the night. I'm still thinking that ancestor
story might be worth writing especially if my paternal grandfather and
grandmother are in it.
Touch screen. How do you highlight a sentence to move it? If it's anything
like a smartphone--forget it.
From: Leonard Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts
I agree with you William. I've been typing all my life or it seems like it.
I refuse to use Windows 8, I do not like a touchscreen.
Leonard Johnson-Källbom
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:31 AM, William Boswell <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, especially since if you're looking for a replacement keyboard you'll only
find one that is similar to a laptop keyboard. No raised keys and a space bar
from hell that adds errors. I think they make them for people who don't know
how to type. For us professionals who have typed for many years, it's rather
difficult to find a real keyboard like they used to make several years ago.
I think the new keyboards are made for texters who can't type especially with a
real keyboard and not a plastic simulation on a phone. I'd take the real
keyboard any day over a touch screen. Who wants a monitor that emulates a cell
phone?
Before cell phones, we used to have real keyboards. Now we have keyboards made
for those who can't type.
From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts
Well, I have to speak up here and disagree.
I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever
take my hand OFF the mouse.
(And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest
that that is for everyone, especially programmers, but the general public will
surely be keyboard-less depending on the acceptance curve along with the
decrease in costs for touch screens,)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM, singhals <[email protected]> wrote:
Allow me to concur with Wendy's opinion of having to reach
for the freakin' mouse every few seconds. For those of us
who use more than two fingers for typing, that mouse is as
unhandy as a rubber crutch outdoors at 95F.
The mouse issue is my major black-mark against Legacy, only
partially lessened by "but everyone else is too!". So, if
everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you? ;)
Cheryl (just because I can't get the shortcuts to work for
me doesn't mean they wouldn't be handy!)
Wendy Howard wrote:
> Sorry Brian, whoever told you that either doesn't know enough to give an
> informed answer, or thinks keyboard shortcuts should go in the too-hard
> basket and be forgotten about.
>
> Ken and Dave may remember meeting my "other half" Nigel on the 2010
> cruise around New Zealand. He's a software engineer/developer, and has
> worked (for instance) on Symantec Ghost from since before Symantec owned
> the product until they closed the Auckland R&D office three years ago
> and shipped that work to India. He knows what he's talking about when
> it comes to this sort of thing.
>
> He says that keyboard shortcuts are not impossible, you can implement
> them when there is a ribbon. That there are keyboard shortcuts already
> in v8 shows it can be done when there is a will.
>
> It might be a big job to write the code to reinstate the ones that have
> been "lost" and have them functioning as they should (and maybe reassign
> those where it's not practical to use the key combination that was used
> before), but it can be done. It's more a matter of how willing the
> developer is, and how much effort can be allowed to be put into the job.
>
> It's not a small issue. Ask any programmer worth their salt if they
> would like writing their code without keyboard shortcuts in their IDE
> (integrated development environment), and had to reach for the mouse
> instead, each and every time - I'd almost be willing to put money on
> that answer. It's unthinkable.
>
> It's equally unthinkable to me, a person who uses the keyboard without
> looking at it and types with all eight fingers, to use Legacy without
> keyboard shortcuts. At least in the long term.
>
> I will be submitting a suggestion for this in a moment, and I recommend
> anyone else who is missing keyboard shortcuts to do the same, so the
> developers can judge for themselves how important it is to their product.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Wendy
>
> PS Who's bright idea was it to reassign the keyboard shortcut Alt-F4
> from the Windows standard "quit program" to "switch to Descendant
> view"? Rhetorical question, I don't want to know the answer. But it is
> just wrong, wrong, wrong (and also proof of what I say above). Please
> restore it to its original purpose asap.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449
>
>
> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.:
>> As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta
>> testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special
>> purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon
>> functions.
>>
>> Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will
>> be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want reinstated) is
>> impossible. If you want to suggest that those old keyboard commands be
>> implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a suggestion would be
>> appropriate.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>>
>> On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>> Thanks for the quick response, Brian.
>>>
>>> Your answer is very disappointing, though. I much prefer keyboard
>>> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.
>>>
>>> This might be a deal-breaker for me. I'll have to think about it. Quite
>>> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now -
>>> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so
>>> I have a choice to make.
>>>
>>> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key combinations
>>> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.
>>>
>>> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
>>>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
>>>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
>>>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
>>>> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> Customer Support
>>>> Millennia Corporation
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>>
>>>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>>>> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone? The list in v8 is
>>>>> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
>>>>> not working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
>>>>> vanished. Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
>>>>> the shortcuts to switch between views.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something, or have they gone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wendy
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