My experiences with touch screens are not happy memories.
WAAAY back-in-the-day (early 1980s), a national chain had
'em in a store-near-me as an improvement; some improvement.
Instead of my handing an employee a piece of paper with
the "Bin 7, shelf 2 C" written on it, I was supposed to
"touch" the 10 numbers matching my order number; except the
screen didn't want a touch, it wanted a serious WHAM! Inch
forward a decade and a touch now works, but only if you
touch the exact middle pixel of a starburst. Ooze onward to
summer of 2013 in an air-conditioned room (ambient T in the
hi 60s) where heat-sensitive touch-screens weren't sensing
enough heat to register - between each touch I had to rub my
touching finger against the bunched fingertips of the other
hand.
Danke, mais NYET, y'know?
Cheryl
William Boswell wrote:
> I'll stick with typing. I've been doing it since 1973 and
> my fingers still remember where the keys are even if I don't.
>
> I don't plan on using Windows 8/8.1 unless I have to get a
> new computer.
>
> I still type over 120 wpm. On an Android, maybe 5 wpm. On
> my Android (which I hate), you have to keep touching to get
> it to cooperate.
>
> After touch screen, they'll have a remote so you don't have
> to use your fingers. Or you can dance in front of the
> monitor, pick your nose, or give it the finger and it will
> know what you want to do. Welcome to the new maid. You can
> yell at the monitor and it will get you something to eat,
> clean the house, take the dog for a walk, make coffee, and
> even write you a check.
>
> I'd like to write a story about my ancestors and how they
> would live in today's world. I think it would be
> interesting, comical, and a whole lot of swear words used
> ("You want me to do what with this thing!").
>
> I tried to introduce my father to an Excel spreadsheet and
> his reply was "I've been doing it by hand for years so why
> should I change now?"
>
> A quote from the movie "Ghost Story": "Change is change for
> the worst." The reply from Fred Astaire was: "Spoken like a
> true lawyer."
>
> And this is my "senior" moment for the night. I'm still
> thinking that ancestor story might be worth writing
> especially if my paternal grandfather and grandmother are in it.
>
> Touch screen. How do you highlight a sentence to move it?
> If it's anything like a smartphone--forget it.
>
> *From:*Leonard Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2013 12:16 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts
>
> I agree with you William. I've been typing all my life or it
> seems like it.
>
> I refuse to use Windows 8, I do not like a touchscreen.
>
>
> Leonard Johnson-Källbom
>
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>
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> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:31 AM, William Boswell
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Yes, especially since if you're looking for a replacement
> keyboard you'll only find one that is similar to a laptop
> keyboard. No raised keys and a space bar from hell that adds
> errors. I think they make them for people who don't know how
> to type. For us professionals who have typed for many years,
> it's rather difficult to find a real keyboard like they used
> to make several years ago.
>
> I think the new keyboards are made for texters who can't
> type especially with a real keyboard and not a plastic
> simulation on a phone. I'd take the real keyboard any day
> over a touch screen. Who wants a monitor that emulates a
> cell phone?
>
> Before cell phones, we used to have real keyboards. Now we
> have keyboards made for those who can't type.
>
> *From:*Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:39 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts
>
> Well, I have to speak up here and disagree.
>
> I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day
> and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse.
>
> (And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not
> ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone, especially
> programmers, but the general public will surely be
> keyboard-less depending on the acceptance curve along with
> the decrease in costs for touch screens,)
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM, singhals
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Allow me to concur with Wendy's opinion of having to reach
> for the freakin' mouse every few seconds. For those of us
> who use more than two fingers for typing, that mouse is as
> unhandy as a rubber crutch outdoors at 95F.
>
> The mouse issue is my major black-mark against Legacy, only
> partially lessened by "but everyone else is too!". So, if
> everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you? ;)
>
> Cheryl (just because I can't get the shortcuts to work for
> me doesn't mean they wouldn't be handy!)
>
> Wendy Howard wrote:
> > Sorry Brian, whoever told you that either doesn't know
> enough to give an
> > informed answer, or thinks keyboard shortcuts should go
> in the too-hard
> > basket and be forgotten about.
> >
> > Ken and Dave may remember meeting my "other half" Nigel
> on the 2010
> > cruise around New Zealand. He's a software
> engineer/developer, and has
> > worked (for instance) on Symantec Ghost from since before
> Symantec owned
> > the product until they closed the Auckland R&D office
> three years ago
> > and shipped that work to India. He knows what he's
> talking about when
> > it comes to this sort of thing.
> >
> > He says that keyboard shortcuts are not impossible, you
> can implement
> > them when there is a ribbon. That there are keyboard
> shortcuts already
> > in v8 shows it can be done when there is a will.
> >
> > It might be a big job to write the code to reinstate the
> ones that have
> > been "lost" and have them functioning as they should (and
> maybe reassign
> > those where it's not practical to use the key combination
> that was used
> > before), but it can be done. It's more a matter of how
> willing the
> > developer is, and how much effort can be allowed to be
> put into the job.
> >
> > It's not a small issue. Ask any programmer worth their
> salt if they
> > would like writing their code without keyboard shortcuts
> in their IDE
> > (integrated development environment), and had to reach
> for the mouse
> > instead, each and every time - I'd almost be willing to
> put money on
> > that answer. It's unthinkable.
> >
> > It's equally unthinkable to me, a person who uses the
> keyboard without
> > looking at it and types with all eight fingers, to use
> Legacy without
> > keyboard shortcuts. At least in the long term.
> >
> > I will be submitting a suggestion for this in a moment,
> and I recommend
> > anyone else who is missing keyboard shortcuts to do the
> same, so the
> > developers can judge for themselves how important it is
> to their product.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Wendy
> >
> > PS Who's bright idea was it to reassign the keyboard
> shortcut Alt-F4
> > from the Windows standard "quit program" to "switch to
> Descendant
> > view"? Rhetorical question, I don't want to know the
> answer. But it is
> > just wrong, wrong, wrong (and also proof of what I say
> above). Please
> > restore it to its original purpose asap.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449
> >
> >
>
> > Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.:
> >> As I understand it from the programmer's explanation
> during the beta
> >> testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing
> for a special
> >> purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to
> implement the ribbon
> >> functions.
> >>
> >> Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since
> what you will
> >> be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want
> reinstated) is
> >> impossible. If you want to suggest that those old
> keyboard commands be
> >> implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a
> suggestion would be
> >> appropriate.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >> Customer Support
> >> Millennia Corporation
> >> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>
> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the quick response, Brian.
> >>>
> >>> Your answer is very disappointing, though. I much
> prefer keyboard
> >>> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.
> >>>
> >>> This might be a deal-breaker for me. I'll have to think
> about it. Quite
> >>> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to
> use it for now -
> >>> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few
> moments ago, so
> >>> I have a choice to make.
> >>>
> >>> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new
> key combinations
> >>> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.
> >>>
> >>> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the
> proper channels?
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Wendy
> >>>
> >>> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
> >>>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the
> Ribbon control we
> >>>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old
> two letter
> >>>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key
> or CTRL-Key
> >>>> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brian
> >>>> Customer Support
> >>>> Millennia Corporation
> >>>> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>
> >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
> >>>>> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone? The list
> in v8 is
> >>>>> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my
> "old favourites" are
> >>>>> not working.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E
> - H) appear to have
> >>>>> vanished. Along with Add Daughter and Add Son,
> Husband's Parents, even
> >>>>> the shortcuts to switch between views.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am I missing something, or have they gone?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wendy
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