I understand all that John, my current issue is that what I had in my Notes
field in 7.5, is now in the Description field after a : (colon) after
whatever was already there (if anything)
I don't mind if notes and or sources are default on or off, I can adjust
that to suit me, what my issue with this is, is the fact that they moved my
notes to a location that I did not want them to be.
If I wanted them in Description, I would have put them in Description in
the first place.
Make sense?
On 4 December 2013 08:46, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:
> Kathy,
>
> The default is to leave the Notes on. I have not seen a case where Legacy
> turned them off. Just now you have the option to turn them off either
> locally or globally if you choose.
>
> As for Sources, Option 7.10 controls their placement, before or after
> notes, when using the default sentences that now do not have either [Notes]
> or [Sources] replacement strings. It assumes you are going to have the
> [Sources] added.
>
> Think the real sentence is:
>
> {Default Sentence}[Sources][Notes] or {Default Sentence}[Notes][Sources],
> depending which option your selected for Option 7.10.
>
> And if you selected to not include notes in the master event definition...
>
> {Default Sentence}[Sources]
>
> ---> {Default Sentence} is of course not a real replacement string... ;-)
>
> If you decide to add your own Sources or Notes fields in the sentence,
> 7.10 does not apply, so you probably should include both, as I do not
> recall what really happens if you leave them both out.
>
> john.
>
>
> At 05:30 PM 12/3/2013, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>
> Thanks for that explanation John.
>
> For me personally, while it explains why my sentences no longer appear
> like I planned them to, it does mean that I am going to have to go through
> each Event Definition to ensure it will read in an appropriate way.
> Not a problem in that respect, the bigger problem is going to be going
> through each event to ensure that the notes are back in the notes, and not
> in the description area.
>
> no dramas though, just means I get to re-examine each piece of evidence
> again.
>
> And why would someone not want to include their sources?
>
>
>
>
> On 4 December 2013 04:49, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:
> Kathy, Kurt, et al,
>
> In part because of Shared Events, a lot of changes were made to Event
> Sentences.
>
> Let me walk you through some of the changes.
>
> 1/ Option 7.10
>
> With L8, the default sentences no longer have the [Notes] and [Sources]
> fields included, UNLESS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THEM... (see below...)
>
> This option, allows you to set which order in your sentences you want to
> arrange those fields.
>
> 2/ Creating an event - Note can be included optionally.
>
> When you create an event, you now have an option to not add notes to a
> sentence. There is a checkbox at the top, that by default is checked, that
> when unchecked, the Notes are not displayed when the sentence is created.
>
> 3/ Editing an event - Add the notes.
>
> When you edit an event, you have a checkbox that allows you for that
> instance to not display notes when the Sentence is constructed.
>
> 4/ Editing Role Notes - 2 checkboxes
>
> When you edit a role for a Shared event, you can elect to include in the
> sentence, either the Main Notes or the Role Notes or both.
>
> Back to Editing an Event Definition...
>
> 5/ Note the preview window that should show you what your sentence will
> look like. Note you can decide what type of event it will be.
>
> And note the little blue dot that brings up a file you can edit that
> provides text for the various replacement strings, if you feel a personal
> need to do that. If you do edit it, please save a copy of your edits, as
> this file may sometime in the future get overwritten by a Legacy update.
>
> 6/ Reset Button
>
> This button brings up a menu of 2 choices -
>
> a. Reset sentences to default
>
> b. Reset sentences to that of another event. This I find exciting as it
> allows me to load another event's sentences and then make minor edits - or
> no edits - to work for new event.
>
> Let me give an example:
>
> I have customer events for "World War I Draft Registration" and "World
> Ward II Draft Registration":
>
> [EventName] for [Name] [onDate]
> [~atPlace].[Desc][Sources]<:If[Notes]::[CR][Notes]>
>
> I set the 8 sentences up for one of the events and just loaded the other
> event from the first. With the [Event Name] field, no changes had to be
> made at all.
>
> Please note that the Condition expression at the end of the sentence has a
> different format in L8. L8's standard is to use <> angle brackets, in place
> of [] square bracket, to enclose a conditional.
>
> <:If[Notes]::[CR][Notes]> is something I use with most of my events so
> that, if I want note a line break inserted before the notes begin, it does
> not appear if no notes are included with the instance of the event.
>
> L8 does not convert L7 [] conditionals to L8 <> conditionals, but L8
> syntax allows for either syntax. I switched mine over as I think the <> is
> easier to read.
>
> Does this explain better what is going on with basic custom event
> sentences and notes.
>
> john.
>
> At 06:16 AM 12/3/2013, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>
> no maybe not - but it did rearrange things enough to be annoying.
> I now have my notes in my description field and that has messed up my
> sentences as a result.
>
> For one event I had
> [HeShe] resided at [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace]. [Notes][Sources]
> Which would have given me
> He resided at Oak Hill, Wethersfield Road on 31 March 1901 in Gosfield,
> Essex, England. Family of Samuel (45), Martha (42) and children Elizabeth
> (18), Basil (16), Priscilla (14), Frederick (11), Herbert (9) and John
> (3)¹
>
> Now I have
> [HeShe] resided at [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].
> Which gives me
> He resided at Oak Hill, Wethersfield Road: Family of Samuel (45), Martha
> (42) and children Elizabeth (18), Basil (16), Priscilla (14), Frederick
> (11), Herbert (9) and John (3) on 31 March 1901 in Gosfield, Essex,
> England.¹
>
> Not the result I wanted - and it means I am going to have to find every
> single one of these facts to correct them to the way I want the sentence to
> read.
>
>
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