Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

[John B. Lisle]

Jay,

If you want "Global" roles, don't you get them if you maintain a Family File with your Event Definitions and then import that list into each new file you create.

That way you are always working with your personal set of Event Definitions. And those EDs in L8 include the role based shared event sentences.

Am I missing something?

john.

At 06:03 PM 12/6/2013, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:

Ward,Â

No, the event note does not show up on other persons,Â
and I agree with others that the Primary Person should be given a role, which currently is not part of the shared event software.Â
In the example I would have wanted to assign Martin Peters as Head of Household.

AND, I think that the "Role Definitions" should become "Global" settings and not start from scratch with every new file.Â







On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Ward Walker <wnkwal...@rogers.com> wrote:

OK. Now I see. Both Leonard and Kristry were correct. The export uses custom tags that Legacy, RM, and perhaps future products can use to intelligently import Shared Events. All other target systems that only import standard GEDCOM tags would ignore these custom tags and thus only associate the event with one individual.

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Now, back to the earlier question. Is it reasonable to expect Legacy to also implement an export option that serves as a workaround for all these other target systems? Such a workaround would avoid custom tags and would copy the event to the other individuals, but it would also have to somehow add an indication of the role, in order to avoid confusion.

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A related question (I hesitate to ask): What happens now if you link a Legacy individual involved in a shared event with an individual in FamilySearch Family Tree?

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P.S.: Jay, does your event Note (Listed as Head of H.) show up for each person in the share? I think someone commented a while back about a need for a role for the primary individual. Is this an example?

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From: Jay 1FamilyTree

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:40 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

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Leonard is correct. 

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The event share is exported in the Gedcom as part of the primary person.

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The problem is that no other pieces of software other than RootsMagic and Legacy, know how to handle the data in the Gedcom when importing that data.

Just because the data is in gedcom format, doesnt mean the software KNOWS what to do with it.

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A snippet of a gedcom might look like this

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0 @I793@ INDI

1 NAME Martin Albert /Peters/

2 GIVN Martin Albert

2 SURN Peters

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 9 Sep 1878

2 PLAC Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

1 DEAT

2 DATE 2 Aug 1960

2 PLAC Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, USA

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1 EVEN

2 TYPE 1920 Census

2 DATE 1920

2 PLAC Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, USA

2 NOTE Listed as Head of Household age 42.

2 _SHAR @I908@

3 ROLE son

2 _SHAR @I909@

3 ROLE daughter

2 _SHAR @I697@

3 ROLE wife

2 _SHAR @I907@

3 ROLE son

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1 OCCU Unknown

2 DATE Bef 2 Aug 1960

1 CHAN

2 DATE 6 Dec 2013

3 TIME 11:09

1 FAMS @F345@

1 NOTE @NI793@

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So within the events for Martin, it lists the persons that event is shared with and their role.

The gedcom does not list the event within the events of each of the shared persons.

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Hope that helps clear things up.

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Ward Walker <wnkwal...@rogers.com> wrote:

Interesting. So what is the difference between Leonard’s observations and what Kristy reported yesterday morning? They seem contradictory.

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From: Leonard Johnson

Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:24 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

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Ron, Cheryl et al,

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I have used Shared Events often.  Ron you wrote ".....for those who export their database via GEDCOM is that the shared event exports as a single event for the primary participant only.  It does not export for those sharing the event."  You are correct in that it exports for the "primary participant" however it also exports for all others that share the same event.  I have checked this out for shared events, the GEDCOM contains not only the primary participant it even contains the events that are shared by others.

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Have a nice day,

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Leonard Johnson-Källbom

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