Gedcom Standards generally use only these terms; DATE_APPROXIMATED: = {Size=4:35} [ ABT <DATE> | CAL <DATE> | EST <DATE> ] Where : ABT =About, meaning the date is not exact. CAL =Calculated mathematically, for example, from an event date and age. EST =Estimated based on an algorithm using some other event date.
DATE_PERIOD: = {Size=7:35} [ FROM <DATE> | TO <DATE> | FROM <DATE> TO <DATE> ] Where:DATE> FROM =Indicates the beginning of a happening or state. TO =Indicates the ending of a happening or state. DATE_PHRASE: = {Size=1:35} (<TEXT>) Any statement offered as a date when the year is not recognizable to a date parser, but which gives information about when an event occurred. The date phrase is enclosed in matching parentheses. DATE_RANGE: = {Size=8:35} [ BEF <DATE> | AFT <DATE> | BET <DATE> AND <DATE> ] Where : AFT =Event happened after the given date. BEF =Event happened before the given date. BET =Event happened some time between date 1 AND date 2. For example, bet 1904 and 1915 indicates that the event state (perhaps a single day) existed somewhere between 1904 and 1915 inclusive. The date range differs from the date period in that the date range is an estimate that an event happened on a single date somewhere in the date range specified. as per http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/gedcom/55gcch2.htm#S1 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Alex MacPhee <alex_macp...@outlook.com>wrote: > >I've used Est as an abbreviation for that, > > but since I've learned from this list that some of you think that Est > > means Established > > That's a good point. I wonder if perhaps Ver(ified) for Est(ablished) > could avoid the ambiguity. > > > *Alex* > > > > From: jleavi...@att.net > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt > > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 19:27:18 -0800 > > > > As one of the "rest of you," allow me to pipe in here. I suppose an > > honest, though humorous entry would be "guess" instead of Estimated, but > > Estimated means the same to me anyway. Moreover, I have come to regard > > the term about, or abt to mean 'guess,' since, most of the time, you > > find it to have been a (wild) guess. Sometimes it is based on an often > > used formula, but isn't that also a guess? I rather like using the term > > Estimated. I must admit that I've used Est as an abbreviation for that, > > but since I've learned from this list that some of you think that Est > > means Established, I will, in the future, spell it out. <sigh> > > > > Joseph Leavitt > > > > > > > > On 1/6/2014 6:46 PM, Bob Austen wrote: > > > > > > Hi Jay, > > > > > > Help me out here, what is the norm for ‘calculated date’, and > when/how > > > do the rest of you use the term? I’ve not seen it used for another > > > particular purpose, so I am interested in knowing how you understand > > > it and what others are expecting to see by that. Would you use > ‘Est’ > > > as a guess/fill in date? I also use FTM and the default is to > > > change circa/cir/c/Est/ to Abt. I want to differentiate between that > > > terminology and my guess. > > > > > > I don’t like to leave missing birth dates (in particular) and will > > > most often put in an estimated date or a range (also an > > > estimate/guess) to better sort the individual. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > *From:*Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree....@gmail.com] > > > *Sent:* Monday, 6 January, 2014 2:39 PM > > > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > You do the rest of us a disservice by using Cal for a date that is not > > > a calculated date. Any data that comes from you will assumed to be a > > > calculated date. > > > > > > However you use the program within your PC................. and is > > > best for you ......is great. > > > > > > But if you are going to stray from the expected or norm, please take > > > into consideration that others will never know you changed the > > > expected data. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Bob Austen <rgaus...@telus.net > > > <mailto:rgaus...@telus.net>> wrote: > > > > > > If a census shows age 21 in 1911 I would use 'c 1890'. (Circa/Cir/c) > > > I use Cal (Calculated) for my best guess. In my file I know that a > > > 'Cal' date was *my* guess and did not come from any other source. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Valerie B Garton [mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>] > > > Sent: Sunday, 5 January, 2014 10:53 PM > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> > > > Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt > > > > > > I have now confused myself: > > > > > > Age 21 in 1911 census born abt/est 1890 > > > > > > Died age 47 in 1865 born abt/est 1818 > > > > > > Child born 1867 with no marriage for parents - marriage est/abt 1866 - > > > source: marriage date assuming this is the first born child Parents of > > > above child F born est/abt 1841 M born est/abt 1854 - source: birth > > > dates assuming parents aged 26 and 22 at time of possible first born > child > > > > > > Any more suggestions please ? > > > > > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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