On 12/04/2016 13:40, Linda Greethurst wrote:
This note pertains to a bit of history, geography and using Legacy to
enter the info. I want to clearly designate the difference between the
locations of church events such as baptism and burial and the civil
events such as birth and death.
In the US we have city (or township if referring to a farm), then
county, then state, and then country. For example I would enter: Des
Moines, Polk County, Iowa, USA. I use the word "County" as Des Moines
city is not in Des Moines county. The name of the church itself would go
into the notes under the baptism address, right?
But I am confused with English locations; and I think I am mixing up
church and civil juridictions. In England, isn't a "parish" a larger
area than just a church building? Can there be more than one
church/congregation within a "parish" jurisdiction?
Example, I have a guy baptized on 12 Dec 1748 at St. Nicholas Parish,
Shepperton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom.
That would be a church location for a church function. But what would
be the birth location if he were born in Shepperton. He wasn't born in
the church building itself as far as I know. Do I use the jurisdiction
of "Hundred" (which I haven't really figured out yet). I don't know if
he was born in the village of Shepperton, or on a rural residence.
Then he died in 1816 in Deptford, Kent, England -so now I have just
three places? Is there a smaller unit of an address to pinpoint where
Deptford is than just Kent?
Is "England" enough - properly? Do I need to include "United Kingdom"?
I do not use "USA" for pre 1776 events - that is not a proper location.
So the basic questions: What are the 4 crucial "names" go into the four
slots for the civil birth location?
What "names" go into the four
slots for the church baptism location?
What other "location"
information would I need to include in the notes section?
I am aware of the option to omit leading commas for easier reading to
the non-genealogist. And I know I can use more than 4 slots, but then
the sort order gets "out of sorts". Thus, what are the 4 vital names.
Any suggestions or guidelines would be helpful. Thank you in advance.
The most helpful suggestion I can give is to abandon any idea of using
no more and no less than 4 slots for UK places!
With regard to Parish, this gets confusing because there are
ecclesiastical parishes - the area surrounding a church - and civil
parishes, which don't necessarily have the same boundaries.
About the nearest you can get to a standard, before the modern
introduction (by the Royal Mail) of Post Towns and Post Codes, is
Village, Town, County, Country.
I tend to just go with what I see - and I do use the house/church/street
name as part of the location. So "St Nicholas' Church, Shepperton,
Middlesex, England" for the Baptism, "Deptford, Kent, England" for the
Death or even just "Greenwich Registration District"
if that's all I know for sure.
You could add "England" to the Registration District, but it's never
safe to include a county because RDs often overlapped county boundaries.
Also not correct say "Greenwich, Kent, England" if all you know is
that the event was registered in the Greenwich RD, because the event
didn't necessarily occur in Greenwich itself but in a neighbouring parish.
Sorry, I've probably just made it seem even more confusing:-( Just
write what you see.
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Jenny M Benson
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