Re: [LegacyUG] e: Keeping track of adopted names

[Gordon Small]

The adoption would have probably taken place after the marriage... The era 
is circa 1933-1935. The oldest child was born in Pittsburgh, PA. I have a 
death certificate but not a birth certificate. All the siblings agree on her 
birthdate and also agree that she was born two years before the marriage of 
their parents. When alive the eldest child tried in vain to get a birth 
certificate. There are also stories around that incident too but I can't 
remember very much about it other than the frustration experienced. I don't 
know if a birth certificate was ever found. One of the other siblings 
"thinks" they once saw a birth certificate and that it looked like it had 
been doctored up. It's also possible the birth was entered under another 
surname. If that was the case I wouldn't have any idea what it would be. The 
only way I would be able to find out anything would be to go to PA and start 
trying to find hospital records and looking for the mother's name. I do 
think the birth took place in a hospital. One other interesting note is that 
no one ever knew either of the parents were ever in PA until the mother had 
to come clean about why the child couldn't get a birth certificate from 
Cuyahoga County; where everyone thought all the children had been born. "Oh, 
what a tangled web we weave".

Maybe someday I'll have an opportunity to uncover the truth.
Gordon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paula Ryburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <LegacyUserGroup@mail.millenniacorp.com>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e: Keeping track of adopted names


Gordon,
Did you verify the oldest child's birthdate by obtaining their birth
certificate?  What names are listed as parents?
Personally, I find it hard to believe that an unmarried couple would
together adopt a child (first part of story #2).  At least in my lifetime,
I'm not sure the courts would allow that...?  However, depending on the 
era,
it may well have been acceptable... but wouldn't that mean they were 
living
together, and how often did that happen "back then"?  Hmmm...  I guess it
could also depend on location, proximity to church/parson, etc...

I would add all children as natural/biological until you can prove
otherwise.  And the "stories" could be added to the Marriage in Notes or
Events, with the applicable relatives cited as sources.
What a fascinating "mystery," though.  The kind that keeps you interested 
in
continuing the research!
--Paula


In one family I am researching there are six children. The parents always
told everyone that they were married two years before their actual 
marriage
date and everyone always thought all their children were their biological
children. Well everyone in the immediate family thought that anyway. My
research uncovered anomalies in the birth dates of the children and the
marriage date of the parents. The first child was 2 years old when the
parents were married. The second child was born 7 months after they were
married. The birth dates of the children and the Marriage date have been
verified.

I have confronted the only three living relatives that would have 
knowledge
of what happened and have three different stories.

1. The first born was biological to the mother but not the father. (Sister
of the mother)
2. The first born was adopted by both parents. The second born was
biological to both parents. (Sister to the father)
3. The first and second born were both adopted. (1st cousin to the mother)

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