Hi Gail, I appreciate you helping me. I have been thinking that I could find what I am looking for in the Master Source List if I was to start the newspapers with Newspaper - state, county, etc. I did this with books and photographs and can find what I am looking for fast. I got to thinking maybe it would work for census, etc. I think I was too scared if I did this I would have a mess. I am going to 'go for it'!!!!! I am going to organize them as your example is.
You have saved me a ton of time by mentioning two entries for the same source. This is some that I have spent hours trying to figure out for a situation as this: I have data from a book that can be found in: the Rochester Hills Library, same book is in the Troy Library, same book is at the Pontiac Pioneer & History Room, same book is in LDS FHC Mesa, is on Heritage Quest Online. I was spending more time trying to figure out how to show that if I wanted to look at the book again I would know where I might find it. I ended up having one source and using the Source Comments tab. I put data as above or if some did a look up at one of these places I put their name & how to contact them under the library info all with one source for the book. It would be nice to list more than one repository for a source. I am going to change my cemeteries to the way you do. I too have one source for the cemetery and source all individuals to this one source. I learned the hard way, 1 cemetery I know of at least 30 burials and who knows how many more I might learn about. I think I will give Personal - then surname for the trade cards. I know what you mean about changing how one names the Source Name on the Master Source List. I spend more time trying to figure out how to source something than I did finding the document, etc. Thanks for helping me. I bet there are others in our group that will find this very very helpful. I sure am. Now off to fix up my Source Names. Thank you!!! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Rich Nestor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with sourcing > Hi Ann, I've been meaning to get back with you on my ideas of how to use > the > "Source List Name" field in Legacy. I have set mine up by type (such as > vital, newspaper, church, cemetery, court, census, personal, etc.) and > then > by State followed by county. Finally, I add a title that I will remember. > This is not for report output, but for my own personal indexing system. > > For census entries, I have (for example): > Census: Alabama, Barbour - 1820 U.S. Census [Ancestry.com] > Census: Alabama, Barbour - 1830 U.S. Census [Ancestry.com] > Census: Alabama, Bullock - 1820 U.S. Census [Ancestry.com] > Census: Georgia, Decatur - 1880 U.S. Census [Ancestry.com] > Census: Georgia, Decatur - 1900 U.S. Census [Ancestry.com] > For me, they sort first by location and then by year. > > It's the same with cemeteries: > Cemetery: Florida, Holmes, Bonifay - Bonifay Cemetery [Find-A-Grave > database] > Cemetery: Florida, Holmes, Bonifay - Bonifay Cemetery [Rootsweb database] > Cemetery: Georgia, Decatur, Oak City Cemetery > > Notice how I have the same cemetery listed twice? It's because they are > two > different source (repository, really) locations. For the ones I survey > myself, I just list the cemetery with out a bracketed comment. The detail > shows the date of my visit as well as the stone name. > > I might have several individual stones listed under each of these master > sources above. With hundreds and hundreds of individual stones I have > found, I hate to make each stone its own source. Even if I did, I would > have that single source attached several times to an individual(s) - maybe > once to the name, once to the birth information, once to the death > information, and once to the burial information. Again, it would be nice > to > link this source to all these fields instead of using the copy/paste. > Having it copied so many times (even if a single stone is a single master > source) still leads to redundant entries and makes the database larger > than > it needs to be. Obituaries are the same way. They still need to be > attached to multiple people and facts. > > For your item, you might list it under the "personal" category in the > Master > Source List. If you have a bunch of these, you could have a category > called > "heirlooms" or you put them behind a surname category if you have a bunch > of > that type. > > I found that as my database of sources grew, I changed my mind on how to > categorize them. Fortunately, this did not take too long, and I found it > was well worth my efforts. > > Gail Rich Nestor > Smyrna, Georgia, USA > www.roots2buds.net > > P.S. I need to read *Isle on Canes*! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:11 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with sourcing - Attn: Cathy & Gail Rich > Nestor > or anyone with time to respond > > > > Hi Gail, > > > > No way are you long winded! Thanks for the detailed step by step idea of > > what and how to source these trade cards, etc. I couldn't decide if I > > should do as how I interpreted the training CD shows, California, San > > Francisco County, San Francisco - Trade Cards. It just didn't seem > > right. > > It is that source name field that is always my biggest mental block. I > > think in this case the source name field as HUDDLESTON - Trade Cards of > > The Great American Tea Importing Company founded by Hugh Huddleston > > might > > be better. The idea of a keepsake inventory is something I have thought > > about doing in TreePad. Right now I have sticky notes on the bottom of > > stuff that doesn't go in a scrap book. I use Mary B.'s idea of using the > > photo corners for the paper stuff. > > > > I have Elizabeth Shown Mills book "Isle of Canes" read it in one > > sitting, > > just couldn't put it down. I don't have Louisiana or African American > > ancestors but it still was a riveting book. > > > > I greatly appreciate you taking the time to help me. > > > > Ann > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gail Rich Nestor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with sourcing - Attn: Cathy & Gail Rich > > Nestor or anyone with time to respond > > > > > >> Hi Ann, I would treat sourcing this item the way you might treat any > >> other > >> family memorabilia such as a war ration coupon book or an antique > >> chest. > >> > >> In this case, I would not worry so much about format and focus instead > >> on > >> describing the item in great detail. If it were something produced by > >> an > >> ancestor, list that information and notes the dates of birth and death > >> for > >> that ancestor. List the chain of ownership down to yourself, providing > >> the > >> years in which it changed hands. If there is a web site related to it, > >> I > >> would list that too. You can use the extra room in the source detail > >> comments and notes if/when you run out of room in the citation detail > >> screen. > >> > >> The main thing to convey is exactly what the item is, what its > >> significance > >> is, and where someone can either see yours or purchase/see one for > >> themselves. That should cover it. > >> > >> If you really want an expert opinion (mine is not that!!), you can join > >> the > >> APG Rootsweb List and ask Elizabeth Shown Mills herself! She is hard > >> at > >> work on her book and her coursework plans right now, but she often > >> takes > >> the > >> time to personally help out fellow researchers. The list is fabulous > >> for > >> answering questions os serious genealogists, even if they are fairly > >> new > >> to > >> the field. I have learned a ton by just reading the posts! > >> > >> Best of luck and I hope this gives you an idea of where to start on > >> this > >> source. I myself have a photocopy of an advertisement poster of one of > >> my > >> 2nd great grandfathers for his general merchandise sales business owned > >> with > >> his brother. I need to create a source for the picture of it that I > >> have > >> posted to the web. You might also want to create your own keepsake > >> inventory so your descendants will know where things came from (or who > >> currently has late Aunt Marge's great cookbook!). > >> > >> Sorry to be so long-winded.... > >> Gail Rich Nestor > >> Smyrna, Georgia, USA > >> www.roots2buds.net > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ann Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "LegacyUserGroup" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:26 AM > >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with sourcing - Attn: Cathy & Gail Rich Nestor > >> or > >> anyone with time to respond > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Cathy or Gail I see both of you have been helpful to others in > >> > sourcing. I > >> > would appreciate help on two items that are not in the book > >> > "Evidence", > >> > the training CD "Ultimate Guide to Sources", in the LUG archives or > >> > on > >> > various internet sites that deal with sourcing. > >> > > >> > I have copies of Great American Importing Tea Company Trade Cards > >> > that > >> > I > >> > have had since 2002 and still cannot figure out how to source in > >> > Legacy. > >> > These cards have > >> > a picture and some advertising and about 5 x 3 inches. > >> > > >> > I also have a copy of what might be a Trade Card or an advertisement > >> > flyer > >> > or ??? that I would appreciate some ideas of how to source it. This > >> > is > >> > about 5 x 3 inches. It has - Great American Importing Tea Co. quite > >> > large > >> > at the top. Below this is about selling Teas, > >> > Coffees, and Spices at prices way below all others, and giving away > >> > beautiful and > >> > useful Premiums most liberally. There is more of this type of thing > >> > telling > >> > about this company. Then it has City Stores: and lists 14 addresses & > >> > towns. > >> > Below this is Other Agencies: and lists 15 addresses & towns. At the > >> > bottom > >> > it has Headquarters and the address. > >> > > >> > All of these were most likely from about 1880 when the company was > >> > founded > >> > in San Francisco California to not too long after 1907 when the > >> > founder > >> > died. > >> > > >> > I also have the following that I cannot figure out how to source. > >> > In 2002 on the website www.isaak.unh.edu/speccoll/sulloway.2htm > >> > I found where the Great American Importing Tea Co. is mentioned it > >> > appears > >> > to be something to do with songs, they seem to be patriotic songs > >> > published > >> > from 1898 to 1918. Such as On to Plattsburg - 1916, On to Spain - > >> > 1898, > >> > On > >> > to Victory - 1918. > >> > > >> > The owner of the Great American Importing Tea Co. is an ancestor. > >> > If you think I should keep this printout from this website I would > >> > appreciate some help on how to source it. > >> > > >> > This printout has: > >> > On to Spain > >> > Publication Date: 1898 > >> > Composer: Jose. B. Carey > >> > Lyricist: Jos. B. Carey > >> > Performer: [this is blank] > >> > Illustrator: [this is blank] > >> > Publisher: Great American Importing Tea Co. > >> > Here is more on the printout about the patriotic songs. > >> > > >> > This is a printout from the same site: > >> > 12. Patriotic Songs, Poems, and Games > >> > > >> > Then it lists songs and something about the songs. Here is the one > >> > that > >> > I > >> > need help with. > >> > > >> > "On to Spain: To the Boys in Blue." Patriotic War Chorus. Music and > >> > lyrics > >> > by Jos. B. Carey. N.p.: Great American Importing Tea Co., 1898. > >> > NYPL for the Performing Arts, Music Division, American Music > >> > Collection > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > Ann > > Enter the drawing for a FREE Legacy Cruise to Alaska or a FREE research > > trip to Salt Lake's Family History Library. Open to users of Legacy 6 > > Deluxe. 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