On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:43:32 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:50:25 +0000, robert burrell donkin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> US employment law seems pretty clear and requiring CCLAs from > >> contributors employed in the US sounds like a very good idea. in other > >> jurisdictions, though, employment law is very different. an enhanced > >> CLA > >> for some jurisdictions may be a better idea. > >> > > > > Requiring CCLAs may restrict the pottential contributors to those > > working for the few large corporations that do open source ( sun, ibm, > > etc ), or are unemployed/self employed. > > You'd have no need for it w/ unemployed or self-employed, so it > wouldn't restrict. The point isn't to have a CCLA from everyone, but > one from those that are employed. The point also isn't to make things > unnecessarily burdensome, but I think there are some realities that we > have to deal with. Except for the lucky self-employed and unlucky unemployed - it is usually very burdensome to deal with management/legal/beaurocracy - especially when you're doing it so you can do something on your free time. > Indeed, but I would think that would be the *easy* one to get. Many > large companies have inventions agreements that cover *everything* you > do, even if not directly related to your job, because the company is so > big, and their technology interests so far-reaching. > > > > > Just try going to your manager and ask him to get involved with the > > company legal department and get a CCLA signed ( that is probably > > generic and applies to the entire company ) - so you can do your hobby > > in your free time. ( I want to go fishing, but I need a legal paper > > that says the comany is giving up the rights to all the fish me or any > > other employee will catch :-) > > Well, IIRC, you work for Motorola. (Or did at one point..) I'd be > surprised if there wasn't such a policy in place already, or you don't > have an inventions agreement that doesn't cover all that you do. I'm not sure inventions and copyright is in the same bucket, but yes - probably everyone signs a contract that is bigger than windows EULA. At least for me it was very hard to get even the ICLA signed - most managers care more about what you do for the company, and less about your hobbies. Most people ( including legal dept, etc ) are busy with the real work. I don't know if motorola has a CCLA on file ( I hope someone did this ) - but I wouldn't go again through this. > > > > > Does it matter that the project you work on has nothing to do with > > what you are working on in your job ? Or anything I do in my free time > > is owned by the company ? > > I think it depends on the contract you signed, and the state laws, but > IANAL. Good to know that at least europeans can go fishing without a company waiver... Costin --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only, are not privileged and do not constitute legal advice. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
