On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Frederik Ramm<frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Ed Avis wrote: >> Frederik Ramm <frede...@...> writes: >> >>>> If it is the settled view of the OSM project, based on legal advice, >>>> that copyright plus CC-BY-SA does not protect the Openstreetmap >>>> geodata from being copied and incorporated into other works, can an >>>> official statement be made to this effect? >>> No, because we play the same game as everyone else does. We don't know >>> if there is copyright but we claim there is, just to be on the "safe" >>> side, i.e. at least instil some fear of potential lawsuits in those who >>> would use our data without adhering to our license. >> >> I think this is a very sensible policy, and quite enough deterrent to stop >> companies using OSM map data without following the CC-BY-SA share-alike >> terms. >> I cannot imagine any map company wanting to take the risk. >> >> So I still don't understand why some people are so keen to drop CC-BY-SA and >> start a legal arms race by using an EULA instead. If it ain't broke, don't >> fix it. > > I was talking data. Our data is CC-BY-SA and will remain so, > unless/until we decide to switch to ODbL or soemthing else. > > Nobody is saying that the web site terms and conditions, which we don't > yet have any of and a lawyer suggested we should - would replace that > license for the data. > > The lawyers's stance, supported by Russ Nelson et al., is that even > though we didn't have Ts+Cs before to govern the use of the web site, > this should be characterised as "broken" because it exposed us to risk > and we were only lucky that nobody sued us for some stupid reason which > Ts+Cs would avoid.
or lucky that the FTC didn't shut us down in the US for not complying with COPPA, etc, etc... cheers, matt _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
