On 07/16/2010 04:32 PM, Anthony wrote:

Making an offer still requires that you have the database available in
some sort of distributable form.  And keep it around indefinitely.  It's
a big burden to carry around while designing your system.  Just look how
long it took OSM to offer a copy of the entire history database - and
arguably they haven't even offered everything.

Ah. The lack of a timeout is a bug. :-( I should have spotted that. :-(

When I design a system to use OSM data I don't want to have to worry
about how I'm going to maintain the database in a form which I can
distribute to meet the requirements of the license.  Frankly, I'll pass
on the use of the data if I have to maintain such an onerous
requirement.  I'll get the data from somewhere else.  Or I'll just use
the data and ignore the ODbL, since it likely isn't enforceable anyway.

Do you have a write-up of your opinion of the ODbL's enforceability anywhere (I'm sorry if I've missed this before)?

It absolutely has precedents.  And it absolutely is *not* a requirement
of CC-BY-SA.  So don't try to imply that ODbL is basically CC-BY-SA for
data.  It isn't.It's more like GPL for data.

It is similar in intent to BY-SA, as sharealike is not copyleft. But the material differences are clearly more important than I had considered, so I will address this differently in future.

Only with much less
usage so much less certainty over exactly what it means.

Yes that's a fair criticism.

- Rob.

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