Hmmmm. I wonder what the SPDX answer is for "copyright license on a logo
that really should be trademark guidelines"...

Tom

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 14. 05. 20 18:37, Tom Callaway wrote:
> > In this case, this is a logo, which is also a trademark (though, not a
> > registered one as far as I can see).
> >
> > Since the software does not require the logo to be present (or to be
> more
> > specific, the software _license_ does not require this), and there are
> no
> > restrictions on distribution (only modification), it seems to me that
> this logo
> > presents no real risk or burden to our users or downstream.
> Additionally, it is
> > noteworthy that the Fedora logos (and other FOSS logos such as the
> Firefox and
> > Chromium logo) are part of Fedora with similar restrictions on modifying
> them.
> > Ideally, these restrictions would be separated from the copyright
> licensing (as
> > they would be more applicable as trademark use guidelines), but the
> intent is clear.
> >
> > Assuming that Richard Fontana agrees, I would be inclined to clarify our
> stance
> > on permissible content (as found here:
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging:What_Can_Be_Packaged)
> to
> > call out the following as another example of permissible content:
> >
> > * Logos/trademarks are permissible, as long as all of the following
> conditions
> > are met:
> >   A. The logo/trademark files are distributed by the owner (or with the
> clear
> > and explicit permission of the owner)
> >   B. The logo/trademark files are distributable by third-parties.
> >   C. The logo/trademark files have a direct relationship to software
> under an
> > acceptable license that is present in Fedora (or about to be added at
> the same time)
> >   D. Any existing trademark guidelines/restrictions/rules on the
> > logos/trademarks do not prevent Fedora (or anyone) from fully exercising
> the
> > rights given them in the licensing on the associated software.
> > Permission to modify is not required for logos/trademarks, but their use
> must
> > NOT be contingent upon restrictions that would conflict with the license
> terms
> > of the associated software. Two examples:
> > 1. The associated software may require the removal or replacement of the
> > logos/trademarks if the software is modified. Removing/replacing the
> logos does
> > not prevent Fedora (or anyone) from fully exercising the rights given to
> them in
> > the FOSS software license. In this case, the software and the logos
> would be
> > permissible, but the logos may have to be removed/replaced if Fedora (or
> anyone
> > downstream) makes modifications to the software. Packagers in such a
> situation
> > should be especially careful.
> > 2. The software license cannot require the logos/trademarks to be used
> in the
> > software and simultaneously have trademark guidelines that only permit
> use on
> > unmodified versions of the software. In this scenario, neither the logos
> nor the
> > software would be permissible in Fedora.
> > If you're not sure if a logo/trademark is acceptable for inclusion, feel
> free to
> > bring the specific situation to the attention of Fedora Legal for review.
> >
> > ****
> > Under these criteria, the lua logo would be acceptable (as would the
> existing
> > Firefox/Chromium logos).
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> This is exactly the rule I assumed we already had but couldn't find.
> Thanks.
>
> BTW If this goes fine, what would I put in License? GPLv2 and Lua Logo?
>
> --
> Miro Hrončok
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>
>
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