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On 5/28/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
> text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 02:19:11PM -0700, Alan Womack wrote:
> > The drive I want to boot from is on the Adaptec 3940 which is a scsi drive.
> >
> > The other drive is an IDE drive.  If I have the IDE drive in the
> > system, it either hangs or the intel boot manager complains about the
> > cable.
> >
> > If I take it out, then the scsi drive will load grub, but that changes
> > the hd0 vs hd1 situation.
> >
> > I've tried with the IDE changing the cable.
> >
> > Trying No jumper, designating master, and using cable select in both 
> > positions.
> >
> > I have not tried having TWO ide's in there yet.
> >

I put a second hard drive in there AND changed the device order to
controllers without ID, THAT seems to be a ticket someplace.

>  So, what is this 'intel boot manager' ?  Does it run before grub or
> after ?  It is something you used when you only had the IDE drive ?

PXE or something like that, seems to used for the ability to boot a
system from over a network, but there is no direct option for it.

>
>  I've seen cable problems (although I've never seen anything that
> complained) - for IDE it doesn't always work if you have only a
> slave, and perhaps with CS and the drive connected at the slave
> position it might fail.  With SCSI, termination is important.
>

I was working on just getting the single drive as a master.  I did try
it also in the save position, but the bios then complained about there
being no primary hard drive.

>  On an old machine (and if it had a 32GB limit, it must be old), do
> you have a power supply capable of spinning up two drives ?
>

The prior LFS machine is a VIA 503+ board with a K7, with this
particular samsung drive it would not boot if it was not limited to
32gig.  Other larger drives seemed happy on the same board.  This
32gig has most of my families media files on it and we are nearly
full.

>  Can you go in to the bios and play with the boot order, or tell it
> that the IDE drive isn't there ?  (no guarantees linux will be able
> to find an IDE if the bios has disabled it, but very possible).
>

It seems I can control the drive controllers and am now making some
progress.  I can get GRUB to continue on, but I hit a kernel panic
that halts me later.

Alan
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