On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:32:47 +0100 Lucas Soltic <lucas.sol...@orange.fr> wrote:
> > > > Le 27 janv. 2015 à 07:26, wm4 <nfx...@googlemail.com> a écrit : > > > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:39:20 -0700 > > Bradley O'Hearne <br...@bighillsoftware.com> wrote: > > > >> > >>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:19 PM, wm4 <nfx...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think the problem is rather that you're not even trying to contribute. > >>> > >>> This is an open source project. You have to get involved, not expect > >>> that "support" will take care of you. > >> > >> I’ve been on this mailing list over three years. Numerous times I’ve > >> attempted to engage this list in discussions in hopes of definitively > >> understanding FFmpeg at a deeper level, and leaving a discussion trail > >> which others traveling the same path which I have could benefit from who > >> I’ve inquired about documentation, design and architectural decisions. > >> I’ve asked questions about how various X things are accomplished for the > >> same reason. I’ve contributed a fully working real-time > >> capture-encode-stream app whose code has sat on Github for over a year and > >> has been linked to several times on this mailing list. This time, I once > >> again tried to find a way I could contribute something to FFmpeg which > >> based on the clients I serve, is exactly what FFmpeg needs — and so I > >> appealed to the community in hopes of finding others whom it would help as > >> well. All of this is directly aimed at contributing. > >> > >> In all of the cases above, the efforts proved futile (save some of the > >> folks I’ve met and good conversations I’ve had a result off-list as a > >> result). The very ingrained collective personality of this mailing list is > >> a one-trick pony — when you can’t stand toe-to-toe technically, turn the > >> turrets on the person, and make the conversation personal. Same thing > >> here…avoid the issue, fault the person. If you want a fail-safe formula > >> for pushing contributors away, well you’ve got it. > > > > No, no. As I said before, there are barely any developers on this list. > > I guess people don't like giving tech support (especially for free). If > > you want to get involved, get on ffmpeg-devel and on the IRC channel. > > > > As for contributing... I haven't seen a single FFmpeg patch from you, > > and not a single post from you on the ffmpeg-devel list in the last few > > years (you know... the place where ffmpeg devs actually reading any > > posts). > > > >> As I stated before…you win. Your worries about threatening FFmpeg by > >> bringing its API out of the realm of the propellor-heads and propagating > >> clarity and understanding rather than keeping FFmpeg a black art are > >> unnecessary. I’ll contribute elsewhere. > > > > Well, you're not contributing in the first place. Your suggested wrapper > > would have no value for the project either, because it'd be completely > > Apple locked-in. > > > > If you want to view yourself as a victim of the evil open source > > conspiracy, you can do that, but please refrain from such stupid > > allegations. It's quite funny to hear that when I've always argued for > > API simplification and introducing higher level APIs. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Libav-user mailing list > > Libav-user@ffmpeg.org > > http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/libav-user > > wm4, you're being awfully demoralizing and narrow minded. More than "this project is shit, let's write a wrapper to compensate for both technical and social issues without even asking the devs first"? (Oh yeah, and sorry for my disinterest in Apple tech.) > This discussion is already by itself a great contribution: giving ideas about > what should be improved and pointing out what are FFmpeg weakness. Instead of > taking advantage of these you just throw the efforts away. Just the kind of > stuff that makes sure you won't get more source code contribution. Except that it's a storm (or flame) in a bottle, and nobody outside cares about this discussion. It's not like I'm a FFmpeg developer either. _______________________________________________ Libav-user mailing list Libav-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/libav-user
