On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 09:10:30PM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 04:13:26PM -0500, Griffin Boyce wrote:
> >   If the problem is limited to DDoS attacks, you might find that Cloudflare
> > offers some relief.  
> 
> I agree, but: this thread (dating from today) may be of interest:
> 
>       Cloudflare is down
>       http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-March/056564.html

Yes, I'm following up my own message.  The reason is that I think
a particular comment in that thread is worth quoting.  This comment
provides, in my opinion, sufficient reason to immediately rule out
Cloudflare from any further consideration whatsoever.

> From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <muren...@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:33:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: Cloudflare is down
> 
> The issue I have is not with their network.
> 
> The issue is that they require ALL of their customers to hand over DNS
> control, and completely disregard any kind of situation as what has
> just happened.
> 
> * They don't provide any IP-addresses which you can set your A or AAAA
> records to.
> 
> * They don't provide any hostnames which you can set a CNAME to.
> (Supposedly, they do offer CNAME support to paid customers, but if you
> look at their help page for CNAME support, it's clearly evident that
> it's highly discouraged and effectively an unsupported option.)
> 
> * They don't let you AXFR and mirror the zones, either.
> 
> So, the issue here, is that a second point of failure is suddenly
> introduced to your own harmonised network, and introduced in a way as
> to suggest that it's not a big deal, and will make everything better
> anyways.
>
> [snip]
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