On 2013-06-09, at 8:40 PM, Raven Jiang CX <j...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> He did work in the intelligence community so maybe he has a better idea than > us. My guess is that asylum in Iceland is ideal if everything worked out, but > he doesn't think it is strong enough to resist U.S. pressure. > > Hong Kong is stable and modern, so he is less likely to be killed or > kidnapped by local criminals on CIA payroll, and at the same time the Chinese > government is less likely to cooperate with the U.S. than most other stable > governments around the world. > > It's definitely a risky choice, but it's not like there is really any safe > ones. I think the gamble boils down to whether China sees more value in > trading him off for some other diplomatic concession or keep him safe as a > constant reminder of U.S. hypocrisy. Very intelligent analysis there as to why he picked Hong Kong. NK > > > > > On 9 June 2013 17:17, Matt Johnson <railm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Snowden says he wants asylum in Iceland. Why not go there directly? > > Going to Hong Kong makes him vulnerable to accusations of working for the PRC. > > None of that makes sense to me, but what do I know. I will watch, and learn. > > -- > Matt > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Raven Jiang CX <j...@stanford.edu> wrote: > > There is a strong resistance against Chinese strong-arming in Hong Kong, > > plus I am not sure that it is actually in the interest of the Chinese > > government to help the US do anything about this. I think you can make a > > case for why it's a better choice, though it is definitely debatable. > > > > > > On 9 June 2013 15:10, Sheila Parks <sheilaruthpa...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with what you say about Hong Kong > >> > >> He does say he would like to end up in Iceland > >> > >> Wonder why he did not go there in the first place > >> > >> Such an immensely brave and honest person > >> > >> Sheila > >> > >> > >> At 06:04 PM 6/9/2013, you wrote: > >>> > >>> On 06/09/2013 04:43 PM, Matt Johnson wrote: > >>> > I have to say going to Hong Kong for free speech and safety seems like > >>> > a very odd choice to me. What was he thinking? > >>> > >>> Actually, and I think this is pointed out in either the video or an > >>> article somewhere, Hong Kong doesn't generally suffer the speech > >>> restrictions mainland China does. Sure, they aren't completely free but > >>> protests and unpopular political speech happen quite frequently and are > >>> generally well tolerated by the government. > >>> > >>> Still, I have to wonder why he didn't go somewhere like Iceland. To me, > >>> that would have been a no-brainer. > >>> > >>> Anthony > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Anthony Papillion > >>> Phone: 1.918.533.9699 > >>> SIP: sip:cajuntec...@iptel.org > >>> iNum: +883510008360912 > >>> XMPP: cypherpun...@jit.si > >>> > >>> www.cajuntechie.org > >>> -- > >>> Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > >>> emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > >> > >> > >> Sheila Parks, Ed.D. > >> Founder > >> Center for Hand-Counted Paper Ballots > >> Watertown, MA 02472 > >> 617 744 6020 > >> DEMOCRACY IN OUR HANDS > >> www.handcountedpaperballots.org > >> she...@handcountedpaperballots.org > >> > >> -- > >> Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > >> emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > > > > > -- > > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
